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From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:59:08 -0500
Fwd Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:59:08 -0500
Subject: Santilli On Kiviat's 'Alien Autopsy Hoax'




Source: http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/a1998/dec/ray.htm

Ray Santilli Claims FOX Report on Alien Autopsy is
Completely Wrong


From Ed Gehrman

Several days ago I read an article in the news section of UFO
Folklore (one of the best sources for up-to-the-minute UFO
related news), ridiculing the Alien Autopsy footage and Ray
Santilli.

Since I have been one of the few Ufologists to believe that the
Alien Autopsy is exactly what Ray Santilli and the Cameraman say
it is, namely, footage of an alien being dissected by US Army
doctors.

The alien is from somewhere in New Mexico and arrived in a craft
that was found and secured by US Army personnel. The footage was
taken in shot in 1947.

I have defended Ray since I first viewed the complete autopsy
footage (not the fox version) and have established an email
connection to check with him when situations like the Ellen Gray
article pop up. I have found Ray Santilli to be an honest and
interesting person. He has been straight with me.

After reading the Ellen Gray article I contacted Ray and asked
him about the Fox program. This is his reply along with the
complete Ellen Gray article

Ed,

Please circulate this message for me.

THE TENT FOOTAGE

The Fox broadcast relies heavily on something that has become
known as the Tent Footage. This is not the Alien Autopsy
footage.

During 1995 we informed Fox (Bob Kiviat) that the Tent Footage
was not safe to use and may not be genuine. This was known to
them. At that time Bob Kiviat was so desperate to use the film
that he constructed a disclaimer stating that the Tent Footage
may not be related to the AA film and may not be genuine. He was
to run the disclaimer during the transmission . In the end I won
and the Tent Film was pulled from the original transmission of
the AA film.

Now 1998,  Bob needed material for his new show. Bob re-visited
the Tent Film and decided to construct the story that will be
shown on December 1998. Of course his main thrust will be the
"shock horror" of just discovering the story surrounding the
Tent Footage (maybe I should send him his hand written
disclaimer of 1995).

I have already gone on record with the full Tent Footage story,
however for the benefit of doubt here it is again.:

The Tent Footage was the first film material I collected from
the cameraman, it was in the form of 16mm film and in very poor
condition. I brought it back to England and asked a studio
facility in Milton Keynes to retrieve whatever image they could
from it. Approximately a week (maybe longer) after delivery the
Studio in Milton Keynes presented me with the film which has
become known as the ""Tent Footage" I was told that this was all
that could be retrieved from the film.

I had informed the cameraman by telephone that we were able to
retrieve some image and indeed showed the film to Philip Mantel
and other interested parties. I returned to the States later to
collect the main film and showed the "Tent Footage" on VHS to
the cameraman.

At this point he stated that he did not remember either the
image being portrayed or the style in which it had been filmed.
I was concerned but continued to collect the remaining film and
returned to the United Kingdom.

Upon my return I contacted the studio in Milton Keynes to find
out more about the images from the "Tent Footage".  To my
surprise Andy (my friend and owner of the studio) admitted to
playing a joke on me. They were unable to retrieve anything of
consequence from the film therefore he staged a spoof never
thinking that I would want to use it. As a result part of the
film (Tent Footage) returned was hoaxed by him as a practical
Joke.

This meant that with regard to the "Tent Footage" I was
uncertain as to what was real and what was not, also I had
fallen out with Andy.  As a result I informed all parties that
had come into contact with the Tent Footage that I was not
confident with regard to the Tent Footage and further that it
should not be used in conjunction with the autopsy film. It was
the only thing I could do as I did not want it to compromise the
main film.

Later in the summer of 1995 Andy decided to use the abandoned
"Tent Footage" in a video he was producing for a third party and
upon notification of the project I bought the film from him and
out of the market place.

I believe I did the responsible thing and that my action's in
removing the"Tent Footage" from circulation at the very
beginning of the campaign was the right thing to do.

Both Andy and Keith at the studio are long time friends of mine
and have supported me many times in the past, it was because of
this relationship they instigated the joke. I am certain that no
malice was intended by Andy or his company which is why the
matter never went any further.

My position regarding the Autopsy film and the reels recovered
remains unchanged. Any discussion regarding the Tent Footage is
completely irrelevant. Neither Andy, The Studio in Milton Keynes
or anyone associated with them have anything whatsoever to do
with the Autopsy film.

Ray Santilli



(By Ellen Gray)December 9, 1998

Fool us twice: That's Fox's ratings strategy Waste not, want
not.That's apparently the motto over at Fox Broadcasting, which
isn't above eating its dead in the name of ratings. (So far,
this is only ametaphor, but stay tuned for "World's Greatest
Network Executive Cannibals.")

You remember "Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction," don't you? Sure
you do. Built around a snippet of black-and-white film that
allegedly showed doctors slicing up an alien body in Roswell,
N.M., in 1947, this "reality" show was such a hoot that even Fox
Mulder took a shot at it on "The X-Files." But way back in 1995,
Fox the network did big business with the "autopsy," which won
its time slot among 18- to 49-year-olds - people old enough to
know better - and was rerun the following week, with additional
"footage."

That was then, this is now. On Dec. 28, the network will air
another special. "World's Greatest Hoaxes, Secrets Revealed,"
hosted by Lance Henriksen ("Millennium"), will probably alarm a
lot of Fox's loyal viewers, as it seeks to explode such
cherished myths as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the
existence of flying saucers.

And, oh, yes - "the alien autopsy." Get this: After three years,
it's being declared "fiction."

"Now, for the first time anywhere, one of the actors who took
part in staging the alien autopsy ruse steps forward, and
all-new footage and NASA-type video enhancements shed new light
on how one of the biggest hoaxes of all time was actually
accomplished," says a prepared statement from Fox. "Also, other
inside sources and top professionals dispute the authenticity of
the famed autopsy, exposing further secrets about the origin of
the footage."

I feel a little like that Adam Sandler character in "The Wedding
Singer" (spend enough time contemplating alien autopsies and
you'll start feeling like an Adam Sandler character, too). When
the woman who's stood him up at the altar tells him why she
didn't want to get married, he replies, "Once again, things
things that should've been brought to my attention yesterday!"
Or even three years ago.

An actor steps forward for the first time? Didn't he stop by
three years ago to pick up his paycheck? Does anyone at Fox
really think we're going to believe that "Alien Autopsy" was a
good-faith effort on the part of the network, and that this
"hoax" was perpetrated on anyone but the viewers?

Do they think we're idiots? Of course they do. Millions of us
have tuned in to stare at a giant tumor, to watch cars crash and
animals attack. As the three other major networks keep trying to
fill their circus rings with dramas and sitcoms and movies (the
real high-wire acts of the '90s), Fox lures a sizable number of
viewers off to the sideshow for an occasional cheap thrill.

No wonder the tent's falling in. Not that I'm against coming
clean. I wouldn't mind a show, for instance, that followed the
newsmagazines around with a big shovel and exposed some of their
dirty little secrets: the investigations that warn of clear and
present dangers but are nearly always timed to coincide with
sweeps, the relentless tie- ins with network entertainment
shows, that funny lens they use to shoot Barbara Walters.

There may even be a place for this on the entertainment side:

"Dharma & Greg"? Not really married.

"Touched by an Angel"? Roma and Della, not really heavenly
messengers.

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer"? Not actually a high school student.

"The X-Files"? All true. Every word.

At least until they tell us otherwise.

elgray@phillynews.com

by fax at 215-854-5852 or by mail at the Philadelphia Daily
News, Box 7788, Philadelphia, Pa. 19101.