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From: JJ <fierycelt@full-moon.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:24:56 +1030
Fwd Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:41:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Communication with UFOs


> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:05:11 +0000
> From: Bryan Butcher <being@concentric.net>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Communication with UFOs

> > > JJ...

> > > Do you still have the video tape of the event?

> > OH YES...that is for sure!!!

> > > I'm not sure I
> > > understand why you only have two still frames, one which you
> > > posted, if you took the video?

> > BECAUSE...at $5.00 per frame video capture, I decided that I
> > only needed two stills of THIS specific event to use on my
> > website.

> > I do not have unlimited funds, and the website has already
> > consumed many hours of my programmer's time.

> I will analyze your video for free.  No charge.  I have the
> capability of doing video frame grabbing, and I have webspace
> available to make all the grabs, or a good sampling, available to
> other parties interested in your sighting.

> Interested?

It is very kind of you to make that offer.

However, as I do not allow these "babies" out of my sight,
I would have to come along with them!!!!!!!!!!  :-)

> > > Also...did you have a camera with
> > > you on the other nights when the objects reappeared?
> > > I guess I'm asking if there are more photos period :)

> > The objects appeared on _three_ consecutive nights.

> > May 20th, I briefly saw them on playing back my videotape.
> > It appeared that, after tracking the movement of a
> > "conventional ORB" further east, I had panned briefly to the
> > west and the "bright objects" had shown up.  I did not think
> > much about them as they were just visible briefly on the tape.

> I don't understand "conventional orb," could you be more
> specific?  How much video do you have of this first orb, the one
> you were tracking?

Aha!!!  "Conventional orb!!!"  Well..... in a few hours,
perhaps you would like to read my reports of my Orbwatching!!!???
Website should be up and running very shortly, and that will give
you an idea of the type of objects I was looking at last year.

> > May 21st, the evening in question, I caught sight of these
> > bright objects, and decided, as they seemed "anomalous, " to
> > put them on film.

> > When I got home I reviewed the tape, and saw the "objects."  I
> > asked my son what he thought they were, and he said that they
> > looked like reflections on a building in the sunset.

> Have you thoroughly checked the shipping traffic.

  _Yes_.

>  I remember
> someone on this list stated ships reflecting sunlight can
> sometimes appear on coastal horizons.

Absolutely!!! I have studied the shipping traffic ad nauseam.
Also, checked the shipping schedules out of the different
harbours.

> Being a land-locked
> Iowan...I have no idea what this looks like, but checking with
> the local shipping authorities would be prudent.  If no ships
> were present in the area of the sighting, then it's a no brainer
> on that particular theory.  I do not question you saw
> something....you have it on video...but I don't know if we can
> dub it "anomalous" until all possibilities are exhausted.

Well... the bright objects appeared at identical times, so,
admittedly, they _could_  be regular shipping. _However_,  my video
indicates clockwise rotation and a large reddish "field" below
the "objects."

The rotation would possibly indicate that these were not regular
"lakers."

ALSO, pixel count on the vid showed _no_ linear movement as such.
Regular shipping would normally _move_ across the lake's surface,
and _not_ rotate.

> > May 22nd, the third evening,  I set up the video camera as on the
> > previous night, and they kindly showed themselves again.  I did
> > NOT examine the tape, on returning home, due to extreme fatigue.

> > Next morning, the 23rd, a friend came round to watch the tapes
> > whilst we chatted over coffee.  I was in the kitchen when she
> > called me in to look at the tape more carefully.  It was then
> > that we saw, more clearly, what had, in actual fact, shown up on
> > the video tape.

> Again I would urge you to make this tape available for an
> independent researcher to analyze.  If not myself....someone who
> has the observational and technical skills to extract as much
> information from it as possible.  If these glowing orbs are a
> reality, and you have caught one floating above the water on
> film, no matter what your initial intent was...you have entered
> the realm of ufology :)

Aha.......that is true!!!!!  I _do_ believe I may have entered
the realm of Ufology!!!!

> > > I believe when we begin gathering multiple photographic evidence
> > > of single events, then possibly our understanding of these
> > > objects will be broadened.  A good case in point are the Arizona
> > > sightings last year.  If the event would have been documented by
> > > one photo...even perhaps one video...the event which took place
> > > on March 13, 97 would not be considered a substantial sighting
> > > in modern ufology.

> <snip>

> > TRYING......really trying.....BUT, I think that, at the time, I
> > was just really happy to be there, watching things that, up until
> > that time, were NOT part of my normal reality.

> > Best wishes.

> > JJ

> We are all trying JJ...and being happy is the ultimate goal...
> yes? Perhaps we can be happy with orbs being part of our normal
> reality...eh?

I love the Orbs being part of my reality.  I have no FEAR or
negative feelings about these Boys.  As far as I am concerned,
they are just more people who are, or might be, one day,  friends
or neighbours.

> cheers,
> Bryan!

Thanks for your very pleasant postings!!!

JJ