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From: JJ <fierycelt@full-moon.com> [Jennifer Jarvis]
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:19:13 +1030
Fwd Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:41:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Communication with UFOs


> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:19:24 +0000
> From: Bryan Butcher <being@concentric.net>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Communication with UFOs

> However, as I do not allow these "babies" out of my sight,
> > I would have to come along with them!!!!!!!!!!  :-)

> JJ...are we discussing video evidence of your encounter...or a
> new member of your family? :)

Hello Bryan again!!

Well ...good question! I have put in hundreds of hours on
this project, and yes, they seem just like members of my
family.

Hundreds of hours in extreme weather conditions, I might
add!!

>  I understand your attachment with
> the event, I'm sure I would have the same passion, but additional
> independent analysis of what you have captured on film can only
> benefit the validity of what was actually seen.  Obviously we are
> not talking about lens flares, military flares, or solar flares!

Not Flares.  Not the numbers that come in at low altitude and
horizontally across the water's surface, then go plop!

> I am one who firmly believes there are objects in our skies,
> possibly under our oceans, and perhaps within our mountains,
> which we as a public are totally unaware.  When a member of this
> "public" records one of these "unknowns" it becomes important for
> the collaboration to begin and truths wiggle their way to the
> surface of general understanding by all.

I have been posting since last March 22nd. _No-one_ seemed
particularly interested in getting themselves out of their
armchairs.

No-one particularly wanted to stand and freeze on the lake shore
for 4 or more hours every night, with fingers going totally numb
with manipulating video camera, audio equipment, binoculars and
hot chocolate flasks!!!

_Lots_ of people had _lots_ of advice to give, though!!!!

> That's true progress...and perhaps in this case...a
> transformation of our known realities...greater than the
> exponential progression from Newtonian physics to Einstein's
> theory of relativity.

I am progressing really well, and happy with the progress.
My little group of associates is also very happy with our
progress.

> Creating a resevoir of photographic evidence is critical to the
> understanding of these objects.  I understand science's need for
> "physical" samplings to evaluate a given phenomena, but in this
> case we may need to redefine the term "physical."  Before the
> camera arrived on the scene, eye witness stories and drawings
> were the only means for gathering information about an encounter
> with the unusual.  The testamonies were tainted with culture
> influences, individual perceptions, and subjective conjecture on
> "what" the unknown actually was.  Photography changes all that.
> It strips us of subjectivity.  As the saying goes...."a photo
> doesn't lie."

Ha! Not what I have been told.  The first day someone saw
the "Big Boys" on the website, this professional photographer
said "those look pasted in." So, at the other end of the world,
my programmer, on hearing that comment, told me to tell said
professional photographer that he would come and paste _him_
in!

> I know what the skeptics say...and personally I believe it's
> beyond being skeptical, that these images could be tampered with,
> computerized, or manipulated to suit someone's interpretation.

Maybe, .....but,  certain 'pros' say different!

> Photography is a science, there are ways to discover if an image
> is not real.  I think the bottom line is 'do we trust one
> another?'

I trust you, Bryan, but the master copy is not leaving my
hands. Sorry about this, but I have heard too many stories of
videos going missing etc. 'Inexplicably'!

> For us to embark on an adventure which could complete
> shift our understanding of the universe, I think basic moral
> issues must also be raised in tandem with this evolution.  How
> much faith do we put in ourselves to see clearly the reality
> about us?  We've been dependent on others to do it for us for a
> very long time.

> Photography is a relatively new tool for human comprehension of
> what and who we are.  Perhaps to solve one of the largest
> mysteries of our recorded history we need to utilize the tools
> created by humans a century ago.  I don't think the photograph
> has been attributed to reverse engineering....it's a miracle we
> found ourselves :)

I don't deny any of this. I am simply paranoid...OK????

> > Aha!!!  "Conventional orb!!!"  Well..... in a few hours,
> > perhaps you would like to read my reports of my Orbwatching!!!???
> > Website should be up and running very shortly, and that will give
> > you an idea of the type of objects I was looking at last year.

> Please post the URL as soon as possible..

Did - http://www.per.to/orbwatch

> > > Have you thoroughly checked the shipping traffic.

> >   _Yes_.

> _Good!_

> > Well... the bright objects appeared at identical times, so,
> > admittedly, they _could_  be regular shipping. _However_,  my video
> > indicates clockwise rotation and a large reddish "field" below
> > the "objects."

> You know...you could "clone" your babies and let others take a peek :)

Quite a few people around the world have copies, but no-one is
touching the master copy!!!

> <snip>

> > Aha.......that is true!!!!!  I _do_ believe I may have entered
> > the realm of Ufology!!!!

> After doing a websearch on your name...looking for your URL...I
> noticed you've been busy with the "orbs" for quite some time!

Absolutely and they are getting back into action.
Bring your equipment, heavy duty arctic gear, and come
film!!!!!!!

> > I love the Orbs being part of my reality.  I have no FEAR or
> > negative feelings about these Boys.  As far as I am concerned,
> > they are just more people who are, or might be, one day,  friends
> > or neighbours.

> It is important for us to keep happy thoughts during these
> times...without them we destroy ourselves.

Happy is good.  Negative thoughts mess everyone up!!

> > Thanks for your very pleasant postings!!!

> > JJ

> ...and to you :)

cheers
Bryan!

Best wishes.........JJ


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