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Re: PROJECT-1947: Ruppelt, Air Defense & UFOs

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:02:20 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:59:11 -0500
Subject: Re: PROJECT-1947: Ruppelt, Air Defense & UFOs


>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:50:53 -0800
>From: Jan Aldrich <jan@CYBERZONE.NET>
>Subject: Ruppelt, Air Defense & UFOs
>To: PROJECT-1947@LISTSERV.AOL.COM

>The obvious implications of UFOs for Air Defenes were not lost on
>some newspaper columnists, the Alsop brothers during the 1947
>wave did a column on this.

>About the time Project Sign was being authorized there was an
>articles in the New York Times connecting Air Defense with UFOs.
>Basically, it urged that the Aircraft Warning Service's Ground
>Observer Corps be reactivated.

<snip>

>It has always bothered me that Alvarez during the Robertson Panel
>discussions found no radar cases that interested him.

<snip>

>Duh?!  Huh?  Hello!  These are scientists?  They are not at all
>curious about such a phenomenon.  They don't even recommend the
>funding of a small study so that some colleagues could get some
>work and funding.  Why not?  Do they have bigger fish to fry?

>Some points to consider.  Nothing is proven.  We need more
>information about Project Lincoln and Air Defense.

>Once the Air Defense structure is in place. Air Defense would have
>an interest in minimizing UFO accounts. UFOs become "politcally
>incorrect." "If it flies, it dies," is meaningless if you admit
>that you have things running around that you can't explain.  The
>public looses confidence in the Air Defense and the military in
>general.


I guess your point here is that it shoudl have bearn (i.e., it
was) obvious to the AF that UFOs played a role in Air Defense,
even if UFOs turned out to be natural electric phenomena, so the
Robertson Panel should have recommended an effort to understand
these phenomena at least from the scientific point of view if not
from the pont of view of needing to be able to identify things
immediately to separate out the "natural phenomena" from th "bad
boys" coming over the horizon from the north.

I, too, think that th Robertson Panel people did not get the best
evidence or the best presentation to look at.  I think the
presenters took an apologetic attitude for seeming to seriously
consider the sightings which obviously could not be natural
phenomena (observations and film/photos of structured objects).
However, your suggestion that there was a hidden agenda
pressureing the Panel to conclude there was nothing to these
sightings is a good one.    However, as evidence of just poor
preparation on th aprt of the Blue book staff I am reminded of
Ruppelts recitation of the Newhouse film case as presented to the
Robertson panel.   They showed the film several times and the
Navy presented the results of its 1,000 hours of work on it....
and then the panel said "probably birds." HOwever, Ruppelt points
out that the panel was not told Newhouse's verbal testimony.
The reason that the panel was not told Newhouse's testimony is
that Ruppelt didn't know what that was !   Ruppelt says several
years later he met Newhouse and Newhouse described his wife
calling his attention to a group of cuircular objects flying
through the sky.   He immediately stopped the car but it took
several minutes fr him to get his camera going and by that time
the objects were farther away (a repeat of th Great Falls,
Montana/Marianna film situation). Ruppelt asked "How did you know
they were round?"  Newhouse answered "I saw them ...they were a
lot closer,"  or words to that effect.   Then Ruppelt points out
in his book that this information was not known to Blue
Book/Ruppelt at the time of the Newhouse investigation/ analysis
because Ruppelt had not asked the local field investigator to ask
Newhouse about his visual sighting..  Ruppelt jusified this by
saying..."why ask what something looks like when you've got a
movie of it.."   or words to that effect.

One can only speculate what th RobertsonPanel would have done
with the film had Dewey Fournet (the presenter?) or Ruppelt been
able to recite the testimony of Newhouse and his wife BEFORE
showing the film  (better yet, get Newhouse there; he was, after
all, an official Navy photographer).

I suspect the truth is a combination of the above: there WAS an
agenda to minimize UFO sightings, but also there were slip-ups in
presenting th evidence to the scientists.

On another matter, regarding the Air defense Command and radar:
I have been trying to locate records related to the radar
inspired national alert on December 6, 1950 at about 10:30 AM
when radar picked up a number of objects approaching the
northeastern United States.  I have a chapter on this in my book
THE UFO-FBI CONNECTION because two days later, according to a
message found in the FBI file, the counter-intelligence corps was
put on immediate high alert for any information related to flying
saucers (Dec. 8). There appear to be NO RECORDS OF THIS EVENT in
the files of the Secretary of Defense, other than one document
which provides a few details that could only have come from other
documents .

Furthermore, it is clear that the SECDEF office was involved in
this event which resulted in planes being scrambled AND THE
PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY OF STATE
BEING ALERTED!.

Could this be a real radar detection of a group of UFOs that was
effectively covered up by the defense department?




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