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From: Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:08:35 -0700
Fwd Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:16:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Aliens "Sloppier"? - Transcript of Hopkins

> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 23:02:29 -0700
> From: Robert Stirniman <robert@skylink.net>
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Re: Aliens "Sloppier"? - Transcript of Hopkins

> > From: Moderator UFO UpDates <updates@globalserve.net>
> > Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 13:38:27 -0400
> > Subject: Aliens "Sloppier"? - Transcript of Hopkins

> >The following segment is transcribed from the July 3rd 1998
> >edition of Jeff Rense's 'Sightings' radio show, in which Budd
> >Hopkins was interviewd, via phone, from Roswell, New Mexico.

> >The complete interview is available at:

> >http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/archive.stm

> <snip>

> > JR: If their protocols are breaking down Budd, what.....we can
> > only speculate, but it brings to mind right away the concept
> > that maybe they have done most of what they need done, and the
> > big change is about to happen and things are getting lax.

> Or maybe --

> If their protocols are breaking down.....we can only speculate,
> but it brings to mind right away the concept that they have
> not done most of what they need done, and a change is due
> to happen and things are getting desperate.

Somehow the phrase "sloppier like a fox," jumps quickly (and
brown-ly <g>)to mind.

Budd himself has said that the Brooklyn Bridge event seemed
almost staged for the audience.  And having argued that, it's
difficult for him to now argue the opposing view -- that the
Greys are trying to keep this completely secret.

In my experience of the Greys, they don't tend to miss much.  If
more people are becoming witnesses, and if abductees are
recalling more of their experiences, it's quite possible that WE
are the ones who have changed.  And equally possible that this
turn of events comes as no surprise to the Greys.

Perhaps I've told this story here before, but it warrants the
retelling.

I met a woman, an abductee, who's experiences always happened at
night, and seemed rather dreamlike.  During one of these
experiences she asked the Greys if they would come visit in full
physical reality, full waking consciousness, so she could tell
if her experiences were really real.

They said they could do that, but that she might not like the
consequences.  That she would be harrassed by a human agency.
They showed her an insignia representing this group of humans.
The insignia didn't seem familiar to her, but she sketched it
for her husband, a state trooper, the next day.  He took one
look at the insignia and said "NSA."

I know many abductees and contactees.  From this sample, I'd say
that those who have the most overt contacts, the ones that seem
most fully physical, also have the standard harrassment
experiences too.  This is beyond coincidence.  And frankly, I'd
trust the Greys before I'd trust some of our own intell people
any day.


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Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
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