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From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:25:06 -0700 Fwd Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:07:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Meier Picture > From: Mendoza, Duke Peter Brookesmith <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com> > Subject: Meier Pictures > Sender: Mendoza <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com> > To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net> > Compliments of the Duke: > >From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com> > >The Mossad used a .22 caliber weapon for "executive actions", > >but it was a Berreta (sp?) in a .22 caliber SHORT. > My informants beg to differ, and I wouldn't trust a .22 Short to > do such dirty work; and I don't think Beretta made a pistol in > that calibre (not that Mossad wouldn't be able to order a > special, of course). But I have moles burrowing to double check. > It was certainly my understanding that Gerald Bull, designer of > the Iraqui "supergun", exited this life thanks to the .22WMR. My dear Duke. Your British view on firearms is showing. You better check back with your moles. Beretta DID make such a weapon, Mossad did use it, and it was in .22 short. The idea was that such a pistol can be made to be virtually SILENT with the addition of a sound suppresser. The operator's job was to get right next to the target and then fire "point blank" into the targets cranium 5 or 6 times. How do I know? They blew an assassination in Europe where they hit the wrong Arab. The target was believed to have been a part of the terrorist team that murdered Israeli athletes in Munich, Germany in 1972. The point being they get "up close and personal" with the target. We had a .22 caliber LR pistol, a High-Standard, for special operations in Viet Nam. A bit larger than the Berretta, but it was used in pretty much the same way. > >But back to > >the reason I wrote this, the idea of comparing a .22 WMR to a > >.45 ACP as carrying more kinetic energy is just patently > >ridiculous. Kind of like comparing a small stone to a huge block > >of granite. > Not entirely. Compare these ammo specs: > CCI +V .22WMR 40gr 2000ft/sec 355ft/lb > Federal .22WMR 50gr 1650ft/sec 302ft/lb > Winchester .45ACP 185gr 775ft/sec 245ft/lb > Winchester .45ACP 210gr 710ft/sec 235ft/lb > Winchester .45ACP 230gr 850ft/sec 410ft/lb HOKAY Dukey ol' chum. Don't have an idea where you got your specs at, but Gee they just don't seem quite correct. The .22 WMR 40 Grn. round leaving the bore at 2000 fps? Don't think so amigo. Not out of a pistol at anyrate. Perhaps a rifle IF IT WERE LOADED REAL HOT. And Dukey, the Winchester .45 185 Grn. at 775 fps? NOPE, not in this lifetime. Well, maybe if were a handloaded TARGET Round. Not the "Silvertip". That is a very hot cartridge, over a 1000 fps out of a 5 inch barrel. The 210 Grn. round? Real close to 1000 fps. Now I know Errol will be getting tired of this without the UFO connection. So since you are a part of the skeptical community (read that..... UFOs can't exist cause they can't exist) I suggest you do some more study on the .45 ACP question and the UFO one as well. Oh yes, and I send my compliments as well. Don (Sam Colt was a Hell of a Man) Ecker -- Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. Don Ecker UFO Magazine www.ufomagazine.com
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