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From: Dave Rudiak <DRudiak@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:10:11 EDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 20:43:16 -0400
Subject: Re: New 'MJ-12' Documents?


>From: "Stanton T. Friedman" <fsphys@brunnet.net>
>Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:12:28 -0300
>Fwd Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:41:52 -0400
>Subject: Re: New 'MJ-12' Documents?

>>From: ufotruth@ix.netcom.com [William Hand]
>>Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:02:08 -0500 (CDT)
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject:  A DIRECT MESSAGE TO Serge Salvaille ABOUT THE NEW MJ12
>DOCUMENTS!!!

>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>From: "Serge Salvaille" <sergesa@connectmmic.net>
>>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: New 'MJ-12' Documents?
>>>Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:08:15 +0600

>>Serge Salvaille,

>>There ARE NEW MJ12 documents! The authors of the book
>>"ALIEN RAPTURE" are Edgar Rothschild Fouche' and Brad Steiger.
>>Edgar Rothschild Fouche' had been in many black projects and
>>classified projects for many years. After retiring from working
>>for various government agencies he made a group of friends who
>>had also worked in various black projects. They got together
>>and talked several times about UFO/ET information, advanced
>>technology, and black projects.

<snip>

>>So, to both prevent him from going to prison and to protect
>>everyone who gave him information he wrote the book in a fiction
>>format. (Just so you know I gathered all of this information
>>while listening to Sightings on the Radio the other night
>>in which he was interviewed).

>>He recieved the MJ12 documents from one of his friends whose
>>uncle (if I remember correctly) who was high up in the NSA,
>>gave to him.


>Stanton Friedman:

>I spoke with Fouche and have read his manuscript. He told me his
>associate retyped them so he doen't have even 2nd hand documents.
>There are a number of strange changes from the Moore MJ-12
>documents.. and certainly no research presented such as in my
>book TOP SECRET/MAJIC and in my Final Report on Operation
>Majestic 12 or iun Operation Majestic 12? YES. Long way to go on
>these


Based on the teasers of the new MJ-12 documents printed on the
Sightings Web page, it looks like at least some of the so-called
factual material is going to be as fictitious as the rest of the
book.  A case in point is the alleged Attachment D to the MJ-12
documents, the "Preliminary Autopsy of Extraterrestrial
Biological Entity(s)."  The key here is that this "document" is
dated 5 July 1947.  Unfortunately, this introduces a number of
severe anachronisms.  E.g., it states that:

"Lt. General Nathan Twining commander of Air Materiel Command at
Wright Field and Secretary of Defense (Select), James V.
Forrestal are witnesses and will hand carry the report of the
initial autopsy to the President of the United States."

To the best of my knowledge, Twining was still at Wright Field
on July 5 and didn't arrive in New Mexico until July 7.
Forrestal was then Secretary of the Navy, NOT the Sec. of
Defense (Select).  The National Security Act, creating the post
of Secretary of Defense, didn't pass Congress until July 26 and
was signed into law by Truman.  Truman immediately appointed
Forrestal as his new Secretary of Defense the same day, but
still a full three weeks AFTER the alleged Attachment D calls
him the Sec. of Defense (Select).  Forrestal was finally sworn
into office as the first Sec. Of Defense on Sept. 17.

Now one could quibble and say everybody knew that Forrestal
would be appointed to the post once (and if) the National
Security Act got through Congress.  But it still seems strange
that Forrestal would be identified by a still nonexistent
government post, rather than by his real one.

Then this alleged document goes on to say:

"Unidentified debris of nonferrous materials was discovered 75
miles northwest of Roswell by a local rancher William Brazel,
witnessed by his son and daughter.  An early morning aerial
search resulted in discovery of partially intact and severely
damaged unidentified aerospace vehicle and unidentifiable bodies
on 5 July 1947."

Now this is getting real sloppy, since Brazel didn't even
register on the military's radar scopes until July 6 at the
earliest, when he went to Roswell to report the crash.  Yet his
name and supposed facts of his involvement are included in this
"document" dated July 5.

Fouche's new "documents" are supposedly typewritten copies of
the originals. That makes them exceedingly easy to hoax, since
they are nothing but text. Anybody can read a Roswell book or
two, glean a few items, then sit down and knock out a new MJ-12
"document."  Who needs an original?  Whoever made up these
"documents," however, was exceedingly careless.  They apparently
didn't bother to cross-check the historical details to at least
give the papers an air of authenticity (as was the case with the
original MJ-12 papers).  The short teaser segments on the
Sightings Web page are full of mistakes.  Clearly they have been
hoaxed.  Whether Fouche did this on his own or was fed this
disinformation by one of his mysterious associates is unknown.

David Rudiak