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Re: Vallee Hoaxed Corbin, UFO Sweden & Sightings

From: Jack Hudson <true.x-file.news@n2news.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:57:44 -0700
Fwd Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:58:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Vallee Hoaxed Corbin, UFO Sweden & Sightings

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"If The Truth Is Out There...We'll Find It!"
June 16, 1998
For Immediate Release:

UFO SWEDEN PLAYS FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE FACTS TO SAVE FACE

by Denny Seeters

June 14, 1998 True.X-File.News received a message sent by Anders
Liljegren, a member of UFO Sweden, the Swedish UFO group that we
had cited first for having been hoaxed by Jacques Vallee's
Anatomy Of A Hoax and then for disconnecting the link to it. In
the message we were told that the disconnecting of the link to
the article abstract was not because they were "fooled" but
because of a change in their web site. True.X-File News
publisher Jack Hudson decided to not respond by publicizing the
message because we had never said that they disconnected the
link due to their being "fooled", we determined that the link
was disconnected because the article had been proven to be an
indefensible fraud, which it has. In addition, the time frame
that was given for the change in the web site was in obvious
error for the link had been operating at the time of our
original story. Only a few days had gone by when we decided to
check back and found that the link was no longer in operation.
True.X-File.News also provided two ifferent URLs that had been
the location of the abstract and neither one of them were
working. We went to the site of the new address for the
organization and found that not only had the design of the page
completely been altered but there was still no link to the
Vallee article abstract at that time. As such, Mr. Hudson
decided there was no point in reporting a non-issue.

However this morning the following message was sent to the UFO
UpDates mailing list, for which we must respond publically:

>From: Georgina Bruni <georgina@easynet.co.uk>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 03:55:02 +0100
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Message from Clas Svahn

>Message from Clas Svahn:


>Regarding the Philadelphia article UFO-Sweden has not >removed
it from our web site. Please read the >statement below. The
article is out on the net again >since quite a few weeks. Please
tell others that we >rely on Mr Vallees investigation and have
been in >email contact with him in this matter:

>(Mr Liljegren is a member of UFO-Sweden)


This statement is not only untrue but is the kind of deception
that has now become part and parcel of the cover-up of the
Philadelphia Experiment story. The facts are that of this date
the new URL http://www.ufo.se links you to an all Swedish page.
Only when you look for the British/American flag icon do you go
to the original site where they have now reconnected the link to
a new version of the abstract. We searched all through the
Swedish site and as of yet, could find no version of the
abstract for the "(mostly unknowing)youngsters" who were to
benefit from the abstract's information. We at True.X-File.News
can hardly believe that these youngsters were only english
reading and not Swedish. We supposed it is only the english
speaking world that must be told Jacque Vallee's lies.

In addition, at the times that we cited that the URL was
disconnected, it was. The time frame given by Anders Liljegren
is completely wrong since he first claims that the new address
was relevant for "more than a year" and then says that it fell
out when it was restructured, yet it was functioning and
verifiable when True.X-File.News first broke the story and
provided the links so that people could see them for themselves.
Only then did it become disconnected and then we immediately
reported it as soon as we found out and verified that fact, on
more than one computer, and after repeated attempts at both URLs
that we listed.

That UFO Sweden would reestablish a link to an obvious fraud
says only that they owe no loyalty to the truth. They have now
proven that they are as hypocritical as the Journal For
Scientific Exploration when they say at
http://www.ufo.se/english/statement.html under the heading
"Scientific Basis" beginning at the end of the second sentence
that says "Only through an unpredjudiced research on a
scientific basis can we increase any knowledge of UFO phenomena
and come closer to a solution to this enigma." It is clear that
when the situation suits them, UFO Sweden can ignore their  own
idicts, and promote falsehoods with the best of snake oil
salesmen. So the reestablishing of the link to the Anatomy
abstract is no reflection what-so-ever on the accuracy of the
True.X-File.News story of the investigation by Marshall Barnes,
which no one, not Michael Corbin, Jacques Vallee, Bernhard
Haisch or Clas Svahn has been able to prove one statement to be
in error, and except in the case of Corbin(who has still to
answer arshall Barnes' challenge to put him on Corbin's radio
show under oath where he would argue his case under penalties
for perjury)all of them have failed to even make an attempt.
Instead, there is a reliance on the behind-the scenes
connections that exist in the area of intelligence agency
related scientists and the covert agendas that they serve. That
Vallee has been quiet on the matter surrounding these events
shows that he cannot defend himseld unless it is in the shadows,
using unknown arguments of persuasion to try to hold on to what
credibility he has left. That Clas Svahn would still "rely on
Mr. Vallee's investigation" shows a lack of objective thinking
when the evidence is clearly contradictory. It is doubtful that
UFO Sweden is unpredjudiced in any observations that it makes
concerning such an enigmatic subject as UFOs when they fail so
miserably at discerning fraud from fact when the evidence is
right before their eyes.

We at True.X-File.News rely not on the cult of personality as
Clas Svahn, but on the truth that documentable evidence bears
out. That is the scientific method. That is the legal method. We
always attempt to bring our readers that evidence so that they
can see it for themselves instead of making grandiose statements
and pointless proclamations. Still, we can never, no matter what
we do, force them to open their eyes.


The message from Anders follows:

>From: "Anders Liljegren"
><anders.liljegren@norrkoping.mail.telia.com>
>Subject: SV: VALLEE
>HOAXED CORBIN, UFO SWEDEN & SIGHTINGS
>Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:48:25 +0200

>Dear Friends,

>Please note that the reference to the UFO-Sweden web site below is outdated. The current url -- relevant >since more than one year -- is http://www.ufo.se . The >old 'algonet' address is still there, but you should use the new direct one instead. There was obviously once a link from the old 'algonet' site to the Philadelphia report because UFO-Sweden received a lot of questions from (mostly unknowing) youngsters on the case and we wanted to provide the best possible information.

>The reference was removed when the UFO-Sweden site was restructured. This was NOT because UFO-Sweden felt "fooled" by
>the article, but because the reference fell out in the
>restructuring process. The restructure was made because some
>'hacker' had broken into the site and done a lot of damage to
>it. Conspiracy seekers may tend to construct it otherwise but
>this is the case as stated by Mikael Sjoberg, who is
>UFO-Sweden=B4s webmaster. In fact, UFO-Sweden=B4s web place was once
>again restructed, just recently, which is a normal procedure for
>an active website.

>Regards,
>Anders Liljegren
>Archives for UFO research (AFU)
>afu@ufo.se





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