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Re: Talking Sense About Flying Triangles

From: Andy Denne <aura.aa@wxs.nl>
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 03:18:20 -0700
Fwd Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 23:24:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Talking Sense About Flying Triangles


> From: "Matthews" <matthews@zetnet.co.uk> [Tim Matthews]
> To: <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Urgent - Talking Sense About Flying Triangles
> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:13:43 +0100

<snippage>

> In my forthcoming book I conclude that a similar craft was
> responsible for the over 5,000 sightings of the boomerang-shaped
> 'UFO'. If you put powerful lights on the underside of one of
> these craft it would be easy to confuse ground witnesses.

Sorry Mr. Matthews, this is no argument to explain the triangular
UFOs, this is guessing, or have you forgotten the Belgian
UFO-flap?  These objects DID show on ground and on-board-radar.
They moved with speeds I sure as hell would like to see performed
by a LTA vehicle.

These objects, as you probably know were also caught on video
preforming some pretty irrational movents for a "sophisticated
balloon".

I do agree that especially triangular shapes are often
misinterpreted as UFOs but with this explanation I get the old
"it was a weatherballoon" feeling again...

> And with the UFO community ready, willing and able to erect an
> alien smokescreen around such covert activity then the CIA or
> whomever are laughing themselves to sleep....

Definitly true in many cases, xept Belgium, it would seem...

> 2) Flying triangles as high-speed reconnaissance aircraft. Check
> out all the reports about possible hypersonic waveriders and tell
> me what shape they are - wedge-shaped, triangular. dart-shaped.
> Sound like UFOs?
> Er.........Yes...

Again I should point to the belgian case, the objects hovered
almost at one spot, then shot of in high speeds to abruptly stop
in mid-air again?
Sounds like a Belgian Jet?

Er...........Nope...

<snip>

> What amazes me is how little interest the UFO community takes in
> this type of research.

Nice you seem to know what each of us is doing...

> I must conclude that given this information, which is but a
> fraction of the overall evidence, that there is NO evidence that
> either flying saucers or flying triangles are of ET origin. In
> any case, both types are for use WITHIN an atmosphere.

Speaking of research, what about the nasa STS-footage, astronauts
UFO-accounts, the Fast Walkers detected by defence-radar?

> There may be aliens 'out there' and why not? If they are keeping
> an eye on us they must be laughing at so-called researchers who
> have so little imagination and such a tentative grasp on reality
> that they are unable to see that for over 50 years triangular
> aircraft have offered a perfect solution in a variety of military
> situations.

So all UFOs are of military origin? That's barely talkin'
sense,...sorry Tim :)

> The Air Force, CIA, NRO, MOD and NSA all have an interest in
> these technologies and aircraft. No wonder these ex-military
> types said to have been involved in MJ-12 type scenarios are so
> concerned to encourage the public to believe the alien myth
> rather than the reality of secret military aircraft/military
> UFOs.

> There are conspiracies and cover-ups. Maybe Ufology is the
> biggest of them all......

come on...

> A question to Ufologists. When is the last time you heard anyone
> talking about my kind of research at a UFO Conference? If Ufology
> is no more than a new-age UFO religion could its' adherents
> please be honest about it instead of pretending to be bona-fide
> researchers?

> UFO Conferences, in general, have become more like religious
> revivals with Genesis beginning in July 1947 whereas UFO
> publications read more like religious texts than journals of
> decent investigation.
>

UFO Conferences, just like many other things, have been
commercialised and turned in to "big buisness". But that's not
were I collect my data, do you? I don't think so. Concerning the
"new-agey" aspect you mentioned.

Again: religion = to believe, research =(trying) to know...
And OF COURSE are we looking into militairy arial movement,
wouldn't that be obvious?


> Yours for the truth,

> Tim Matthews - Lancashire UFO Society, British UFO Studies
> Centre.

I don't wanna believe, I wanna research and know...

Andy Denne
Abduction & UFO Research Association
The Netherlands





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