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From: Michael Christol <mchristo@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:30:54 -0500
Fwd Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 13:11:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Carp Ontario 'Exposed'.....


>Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 07:28:37 -0400
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: xzone@webgate.net [Rob McConnell]
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Carp Ontario 'Exposed'.....

>[The following is posted despite lack of attribution headers
> and _any_ quotes. It refers to:

> >From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> >Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:28:05 -0400
> >Fwd Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:28:05 -0400
> >Subject: Carp Ontario 'Exposed' - The 'Truth' Behind The Hoax

> available at:

> http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1998/apr/m30-007.shtml

> -- ebk]

>Greetings:

>To say I was amused at the response to the J B Michaels book and
>the participation of those involved would be an understatement.
>But thank-you for randomly selecting me to receive this Update
>from your organization. By the way, Toronto UFO Updates is one of
>the better UFO mailing lists on the net.

>I feel that the response that was issued was in no way an
>embarrassment - but an enlightenment into the total lack of
>integrity, professionalism, and credibility of some participants
>in the UFO community, and how sensationalism is more important to
>them, then the actual truth that they claim to be seeking.

>If the explanation was so simple - why did it take two weeks for
>a response? It would seem that if there was nothing to the book
>and it's contents, that the reply issued in response to my
>inquiries would have been immediate - but what this two week gap
>would lead one to believe that the response took some thinking.
>The fact that Michaels and Tom never met, and that the your reply
>basically tells me that the book is fiction, makes me wonder how
>many more UFO books, reports and sightings are mere fiction or
>attempts by persons within the UFO community to gain through
>sensationalism and bring attention to their quest. If anything,
>the book and those involved - all levels of participation - have
>done more to harm the UFO community than anything else... not to
>mention the hard work and dedication that many serious,
>responsible and professional people have put into credible
>research and investigation.

Rob...I personally just read Errol's post two days ago.  I did
not see your origional post.

I don't know if you have seen the rebuttle of the book which I
wrote as of this message or not.  But, I can assure you that much
of the material is definitely not so, especially when it comes to
quoting details about me and my involvement in ufology.

I won't repeat here, what I have previously posted, but hope you
read that message and this one as well.

>If the statements that J B Michaels said pertaining to Tom are
>incorrect, was there - or has there been any legal litigation in
>this matter?

Tom and I talked about J.B's fictinalizing our characters right
after the book came out.  We both got a good laugh out of it.
We didn't take it seriously.  However, I can see your point
regarding litigation.

I know J.B. and will tell you that it would be easier to just
forget it than make a big deal out of it.  He is a very hard
to catch up to.  I have talked to his sister and other members
of his family during the past.

>I would like to give Tom the opportunity of coming on our show,
>to tell our audience his side of the J B Michaels book during the
>Carp Incident show and the arrangements can be made by direct
>email to me. We have been trying to contact Mr. Michaels to get
>his response but without any success.

Yes, Tom would make a good guest.  He can give you a lot of info
about J.B. I suggest you follow up on this. <G>

>Embarrassed? No. Proud, because as a journalists we have exposed
>some more of the sensationalism and lack of integrity and
>credibility that runs within certain sectors of the UFO community
>that is causing more damage than the alleged government
>conspiracies and cover-ups which are believed to be as real as
>the aliens and UFO's they are concealing.

Much of the information in the book, which dealt with individuals
is pretty much factual. I personally investigated the Long Island
SouthHaven Park incident. I talked to at least a half a dozen
residents near the park. I did my investigation by phone. I gave
J.B. some of my information, including names and phone numbers so
he could check it out for himself.

I have never talked to Mona Rowe, of Brookhaven Institute. I can't
comment on the truthfullness of that info.

Keep up the good work Rob.

REgards, Mike

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