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From: RGates8254 <RGates8254@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:41:40 EDT
Fwd Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:13:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Ray Santilli V Bob Kiviat

>  Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:42:26 +0000
>  From: Philip Mantle <el51@dial.pipex.com>
>  To: updates@globalserve.net
>  Subject: Ray Santilli V Bob Kiviat

<snip>

>  Dear Philip (dated 9 April l998),

>  Thank you for your fax today. Firstly I ackowledge that Bob
>  (Kiviat) will make an entertaining show but no matter what we
>  come up with he will still direct his show along the lines
>  dictated by the commissioning from FOX. In other words he will
>  make a show about hoaxes and include the AA story no matter what.
>  It's the kind of person he is.

Remember it has been Ray Santilli that has failed to provide
proof of his claims. Ray who claimed that we was going to make a
few frames of the film available to be sent to Kodak. Ray who
has spun web after web until finally when you pressure Ray, he
defaults to "Well Volker owns...blah blah. Then you call Volker
and get no response. Its called the Ray Volker vicious circle of
story telling.

>  I am not concerned about any additional information that Bob may
>  have as it cannot effect the AA film, I include in that anything
>  he thinks he may have found relating to the Tent Footage. The AA
>  film is untouchable!!

Truly that film has been untouchable....i.e. Ray has not let anybody
actually touch the actual film. Who knows, for once Ray might be
actually telling the truth. Nah, I doubt it.

>  For your information, Bob does not have the right to use the film
>  or any materials that are owned or controlled by this company
>  therefore permission to use clips of the film will be refused. In
>  addition notice will be served on all concerned that any use of
>  our materials will be treated as a breach of copyright (copyright
>  which has already been ackowledged by both Bob and FOX).

I for one would love to see Ray file a gigantic law suit. Bob and
the Fox attorneys would eat him alive during the discovery phase
of the civil suit and we might get some answers that Ray is
otherwise unwilling to provide.

This will probably end up like alot of Rays earlier stuff:
another tale he is telling that won't amount to anything.

>  Secondly when the time is right (after Bob's transmission) we
>  will respond so comprehensively that Bob can only find himself
>  extremely embarrassed. For my part I am sorry to see Bob jump
>  ship as he would have been my choice to make the show relating to
>  the 'bigger' story.

>  Kind regsrds,

>  Ray Santilli.

Bottom line Ray, show us the PROOF. All we have heard is you
telling one story (and misleading us as well) after another and
when somebody asks you for proof, you just keep on talking and
never provide it. Quite frankly Ray you sound similar to a
certain computer company and their tales/claims/storys.

Cheers,
Robert