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From: Joachim Koch <JKoch1@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:51:08 -0400
Fwd Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 08:43:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Pics of Meier's 'Asket' on Dean Martin Show

Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 06:40:42 -0400
To: updates@globalserve.net
From:Joachim Koch<jkoch1@compuserve.com>
Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Pics of Meier's 'Asket' on Dean Martin Show

>Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj@proaxis.com>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Pics of Meier's 'Asket' on Dean Martin Show

>I doubt that very many are interested in Koch's attempt to make
>one face seem like another, but if any are... .  Does anyone
>recall when he or Korff were claiming that Meier's photo of Asket
>was that of an unidentified model? Now the claim is that this
>photo was of a gal on the Dean Martin show of the 1970s.

>Granted, however, Koch's friends, who are still desperately
>seeking to debunk Meier 23 years later after his Swiss contacts
>began, did find a photo of a girl with the right hairdo!

Dear Jim,

Thank you for trying to analyse the faces.

Regarding the quoted text above, may I help you? It was not me or
Korff who claimed what you wrote above but it was in a report of
Luc Buergin about an interview with Kalliope Meier:

(excerpt)

Buergin: Among others one photograph is duscussed very
controversal.
It shows an alledged female extraterrestrial with her space
gun...

Kalliope Meier: The way this photograph surfaced was dubious,
indeed.

At that time, Billy said that we had to leave the farm for a
while. When we left, I just could see Mrs. G. arriving whose hair
style was striking similar to the "extraterrestrial" Billy later
presented on his photograph.

Some weeks later Billy then showed us the new photographs. For
Mrs. G.'s golden suit he in fact and truth a tanning foil which
one could buy in every  biggerSwiss warehouse. By the way, Mrs.
G. was told to stay away from the  farm shortly after the
Presentation of these new photographs...

(end of excerpt)

So here no names are mentioned, not "Semjase", not "Asket".

Dear Jim, don't worry about the time it sometimes take to find
out wHat was (is) going on. This list here is a famous forum for
UFO research and it was my interest to present new information
(and maybe these become facts in this or that way) about Billy
Meier. If you believe his experiences are genuine, well, do so. I
remain suspicous about this man, perhaps because we here in
Germany have become a bit sensible against "leaders" of any
cult. I know others do so, too.

Your measuring of heads is a bit - may I say it - daring because
you do it with a photograph which is a reproduction in a book
(which might be a reproduction of...) with a photograph in the
Internet which is a reproduction (though very impressive, indeed)
of a photograph taken of a video copy of another copy.

To say it clearly: the photographs presented in the UFO-KURIER
Webpage are taken from the tv screen (maybe the same technique as
Meier applied), so there are more "aspects" of that female dancer
- just as long as she was in the Dean Martin Show. Hopefully,
you'll see her when in July Mr. Korff's tv-program will be
broadcast.

Jim, if you really want to contibute to this debate, then I have
to make a suggestion.

In another famous case, Ufology was not able to identify and
locate another woman: Mr. Glenn Dennis's nurse. So here we have
another woman. Why don't you start to try to find her? You in
America have the opportunity to figure out who once was in that
particular show. You can figure out names. You can locate this
woman where she lives now (hopefully she is well!). You can ask
her if she is the one from that show. You can get original
photographs of her from that time.

And don't forget to show her phoptographs of Billy's "Asket" and
to ask her if she recognizes herself -  or not. I don't know if
Kal Korff has done so.

I know that a convinced Meier believer will (can) not listen to
anything which is presented to show that there might be a big
hoax going on.

But UpDates, I think so far, is not a forum of believers of this
or that creed or confession but a tool to find out the truth and
what is going on (out there). And the Meier case is not closed at
all.

Please let me know, if you want to have the whole Kalliope Meier
interview here in this list (original in German and translated in
English).

And finally: I am only the one who posted it here to Errol's
list. The research was done by Luc Buergin and Kal Korff.

Kindest regards

Joachim