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From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:12:05 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:12:05 -0400
Subject: Hawas' Standing - Statement From Amargi Hillier




From: The Art Bell Site

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sysop - 01:52pm May 21, 1998 PST (#25 of 25)
Keith Rowland

PERSONAL STATEMENT FROM AMARGI HILLIER
May 21st, 1998 - Nazlet-el-Samman, Egypt

Yesterday I was forwarded the statement released by John
Anthony West and Graham Hancock (attached below) as it
appeared on the sci.archaeology usenet group and various mailing
lists. It also appeared on the Art Bell website.

Like many of you, I was intrigued by the line up for the 'debate'
on this Alaska Cruise. It was interesting to see who was to attend
and who was not invited. This says much in itself. Like a tired
tourist trying to find a public bathroom on the Giza Plateau, where
there are none - something is not right in this picture.

I am quite surprised that instead of asking Larry Hunter or myself
to speak about these issues as well, that only Dr. Zahi Hawass is
asked about this suspension. Of course, Hawass needs to be
questioned and he has a right to answer. Our news flash stated on
April 12, 1998 this was a "secret" document ordering the
suspension of Dr. Hawass. Also, we stated that Hawass was not
complying to the order. To me, and I am only speaking for
myself, this suggests something hidden is going on. Thus, why
would Dr. Hawass admit to it and why would not the
investigators be brought to question too? The only scenario I can
sum this up in is this:

Police to thief: "Did you steal the money?"
Thief: "No."
Police: "Oh... OK... you can go then."

We had stated quite clearly on our news flash that Dr. Zahi
Hawass did not want you to know about this suspension order
made by the high government official. Upon being asked about
this, which is a very serious matter indeed, Hawass reveals on the
cruise that this suspension was not true. Now do we leave it as
that or do we bring in the investigators and question them as well
on what they know?

John Anthony West and Graham Hancock are fine and skilled
authors. Of all their material I have read, although not necessarily
agreed with everything presented, they have proven to me they
are able to research, document and stylize their findings into an
easy-to-understand format. Their attention to the details of their
research is clearly seen within the pages of their books - where
we explore high ancient sciences and missing clues to the secrets
of ancient Egypt.

What doesn't fit, considering the skills of these authors, is an
apparent lack of attention to a simple detail in a six paragraph
news flash. Was it too difficult to read? The paragraphs are not
long and quite easy to read. Surely they have dictionaries at hand
if they cannot understand anything. Quoting from their statement,
"The posting had been written by Larry Hunter and Amargi Hillier
and asserted falsely that Dr. Zahi Hawass had been fired from his
post by the Egyptian government."

Nowhere in our news flash did we ever say that Dr. Zahi Hawass
was "fired". "Suspension" and "fired" are two different things. Yet
a simple detail seemly confused by two well published and
successful authors. If this is aspect is confusing, they should visit
any local high school and a student there will be able to tell them
the difference between 'suspended' and 'fired'. I wonder if Mr.
West and Mr. Hancock even read the news flash itself. Or why
would them make a public statement without reading our news
flash first? Perhaps they just made a statement based on the
question Art Bell posed to the debate. If this was the case, why
didn't Art Bell - who is an experienced interviewer - read the
news flash word-for-word to the people of the debate? Red flag.

While focusing on details, our news flash never stated Dr. Zahi
Hawass was actually suspended. This is an assumed conclusion
by the reader. We were only reporting what was told to us by
this high government official regarding a document that orders the
suspension and that Zahi Hawass was not complying with the
orders. Remember folks, this is an investigation. We are
presenting pieces of a puzzle as they come to us. Whether these
pieces change or not, time will tell as we dive deeper into this
investigation. With what we are finding out about Dr. Zahi
Hawass, God forbid any of these hidden events are true. I pray
that it is not, for humanity and history is suffering a great loss.

West's and Hancock's statement also mentions that Boris Said is
a friend of Hunter's. "We are aware that this posting is one of
many by Mr. Hunter and his friend Boris Said which have
misrepresented the truth concerning Dr. Hawass and indeed
slandered him." Although you cannot know this, I am telling you
now - Boris Said is not a friend of Larry Hunter. Nor does their
research connect up other than the fact it relates to the Giza
Plateau.

As we continue through this statement released by Mr. West and
Mr. Hancock, I feel like I am road heading towards a
construction site. Lots of red flags. There is a paragraph that
begins with the explanation of the differences and misperceptions
previously felt between West, Hancock and Hawass. Perhaps
thinking this qualifies them to "set the record straight", they try to
do just that on an issue that does not involve them, but rather
involves Hawass, Hunter, myself and our government informant.
What does reconciling differences with Hawass have to do with
what we have found out?

Also, West and Hancock set the record straight by saying our
statements were false. Remember, we reported only what was
told to us, and our post was the truth of what was reported to us.
We should not be held accountable for the conclusions drawn by
readers from based on the information we are reporting.

Their paragraph ends with the issue of evidence. If we were
trying to prove a case, then yes we would need evidence. But as
stated above, we are only reporting what our investigation has
uncovered. Evidence to prove or disprove this suspension order
will come in time, and I hope it does. As a viewer one of the
largest websites in the world on the subject of Egypt mysteries,
would you prefer that I report our findings to you as they happen
or after the fact, perhaps months or years later? I welcome your
thoughts.

I am communicating with people in the village of
Nazlet-el-Samman who have been questioned by the police
about myself. Why are they being told not to talk to me about the
things they know? Tomorrow I will be meeting with a member of
the Egyptian press who has new, rather startling, information
about this suspension order. These findings will appear shortly on
the news flash page. Yes, we are getting closer to evidence, but
as a service to you... I feel you deserve to follow the investigation
as it happens. Just as we reported as another news flash of what
was said during a phone call with Ahmed Fayed, a close friend of
Dr. Hawass, we will continue to post new news for you. Ahmed
Fayed also confirmed the suspension order but worded it in a
different way... he called it a "promotion" to sound and light. How
you consider being director the plateau to being promoted to
sound and lights show is beyond me.

Details of this phone call are on our news flash page. By the way,
if you haven't read our news flash, as many of you haven't since
you were forwarded West's and Hancock's statement via e-mail
or usenet - then you can read our news flash in full here:

http://www.amargiland.com/hall-of-records/newsflash/

Art Bell did make a call to the office of the person whom told
originally told us about the suspension order. Some of you are
aware of this. What you don't know is that Art Bell thought he
was talking with the person we spoke with, when if fact he was
talking with another person in the office. Art Bell, perhaps still
unknown to this fact, experienced what many foreigners
experience when communicating with other from a foreign
country... the fact that English is not the native tongue here in
Egypt. Thus dialogue can result in mixed messages if one speaker
is less fluent in the language used for the dialogue. I am well
aware of this from living in Egypt since last August '97. Not
everybody speaks English well. Those who don't speak English
well are being asked to understand what is being said in English
and are asked then to answer back in English. A responsibility
that goes unnoticed by most not experienced with people here.

Art Bell, upon reading the news flash, called Larry Hunter on the
telephone. They talked and Hunter gave Bell the phone number
of the high government person who we had met with that told us
the news of the letter ordering the suspension. Art Bell called
Egypt to this government official's office. Due to this language
problem, Bell was speaking with somebody else in the office but
thought it was our government person. This person whom Bell
spoke with said he knew nothing about a suspension. Following
this phone call, Bell contacted Hunter and told Hunter what he
was told. Hunter discovered soon after, upon a phone call to the
same office, that Bell never in fact talked to the government
official we met with. Hunter e-mailed Art Bell about the error but
Bell never followed up.

Personally, I am surprised that Art Bell has not brought Larry
Hunter on air to question Hunter about these issues. We may
hear the people tell reports of a car falling from the sky, to a
"widget" man who claims to have a time travel device, to a
woman who says she has sex with reptilian aliens. Why Bell has
not put Hunter under the probing spotlight on air, regarding such
a serious issue, is a mystery to me. Red flags are going up
everywhere on this journey.

Many people have asked us why we have not revealed our
source of this information. The high government official who told
about the suspension order asked us not to... it is that simple. The
government in Egypt works differently then elsewhere. Here you
may be jailed or fired if you speak the wrong thing. This
government official risked much to tell us what he knows and we
promised to protect him. But due to the nature of what we are
investigating, no doubt in time, the truth will be revealed
completely.

Equating our investigation with child pornography is very
irresponsible and is in very poor taste. Here is what they wrote:
"But in our considered opinion Larry Hunter's postings are the
Egyptological equivalent of child pornography and are a great
disservice to all of us who genuinely seek to unravel the mysteries
of Egypt."

I am disturbed that two successful authors would even make a
relation of our reporting about Hawass to that of such an act of
violence. This statement of theirs really speaks for itself as a
reflection of whatever they are trying to gain by making such a
statement. Child pornography is a very serious matter that results
in many victims, both the family and the child themselves. Child
pornography should not be used as an example in a clearly
personal attack against our investigation and our postings online. I
would expect that victims of this crime could easily explain to
West and Hancock of the non-relation between an investigation
about an Egyptologists vs. the violence of child pornography.
God forbid any that readers who read West's and Hancock's
statement are not victims themselves. Talk about adding insult to
injury.

Follow this absurd statement, John Anthony West and Graham
Hancock suggest that we are a "disservice" to all of you who
genuinely seek to unravel the mysteries of Egypt. If you, as a
viewer, feel this way... then I am sorry. Simply never come back
to my website as a solution. But if you do not feel this way, and
you feel we are providing a very important service, then perhaps
contact West and Hancock and tell them not to speak for you.
John Anthony West can be reached at the following e-mail:
jawsphinx@aol.com

Within their statement, Mr. West and Mr. Hancock offer us a
challenge to find evidence of the corruption with Hawass.
Challenge accepted, and herein you will find part one of our
investigation into the secret life of Dr. Zahi Hawass. As the
investigation continues, the evidence will start forming right before
your eyes.

http://www.amargiland.com/hall-of-osiris/

We leave it up to you, the worldwide public, to discern the truth
from fallacy. You - not Art Bell, John Anthony West or Graham
Hancock - will determine who is right and who is wrong. That
decision cannot be made my myself, Hunter or people who wrote
the statement trying to decide these things for you. You have your
own mind and need to hear all the sides before coming to these
types of conclusions. I am quite surprised that West and
Hancock did not talk to us to find out our end of the story. Really
folks, there are so many holes in their ship - it is sinking like the
Titanic. And everybody on board is going down too.

The only conclusion we can draw is that John Anthony West and
Graham Hancock don't like the message being reported upon by
us. So what they want to do is kill the messenger through the
character assassination of comparing us to child pornographers.

May God bless those who seek the truth, and burn those who
choose to keep it from the world. God is taking charge now and I
warn everybody involved in this scenario to think clearly and
seriously about the choices they make with regards to the truth
about God's ancient monuments at Giza.

Signed,

Amargi Hillier
May 21st, 1998