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From: Lynda Matthews <matthews@zetnet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:44 -0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:11:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Project SIGN Research Release


>From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>To: UFO UpDates Subscribers:;
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Project SIGN Research Release
>Date: 11 November 1998 10:46

>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:20:27 -0500
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Steven Kaeser <steve@konsulting.com>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Project SIGN Research Release

>>From: Tim Matthews <matthews@zetnet.co.uk>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Project SIGN Research Release
>>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:32:20 -0000

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>>So we are not especially interested in theorizing and we are in
>>the process of making further FOIA requests based upon the
>>numerous technical documents now in our possession.

>Glad to hear that you're not going to get into theorizing on the
>basis of annecdotal evidence, and will be searching for
>additional FOIA information on this subject.  I would be most
>interested in knowing the source of the FOIA documents if they
>aren't coming from the "sanitized" archives though.

>Steve

Perhaps all that nice grant money from whomever would not be
forthcoming if FUFOR got into the truth about discs - ie;
classified aircraft. If we had a tenth of the money you guys
appear to have then we'd be much further along. But the truth
does not appear to sell; only fantasy and pseudo-science does.

FOIA documents are just ONE way of getting to the bottom of the
truth. Just as in the UK where the PRO gives out certain
documents (only) the same is the case in the US. Note that our
previous requests for information on 'Project Y' specifically
have met with no success NOT because there is no information to
give - we already have pages of documents on 'Project Y' which
are clearly but a fraction of the whole - but because too much
disclosure will let the genie out of the bottle and there would
be some embarrassing admissions to deal with......

But you, not unlike your colleagues, have not and will not
answer the points we're making and this is because we are on the
right track. In a desperate and utterly ludicrous attempt to
pigeon-hole our research I note that it is now designated "The
Secret Weapon Theory".

It ain't no theory; it is  Secret Weapon Fact as the detailed
history of certain older black projects indicate. No doubt back
in the late 1980s you would have been denying the existence of
the F-117A!! Just in case you think that just flying disc
technologies are kept under wraps it might be of interest to
note that Lockheed's Gusto programme still has classified
elements - as do many other similar efforts.

Unlike most US researchers I don't have a constituency to play
to, an audience to appease or a rich backer to satisfy. The
evidence we are amassing shows several things;

1 - The blindness of too many (not all) Ufologists and their
pseudo-religious fantasies about 'first contact' and aliens.

2 - Their belief that the official USAF response to "UFO"
sightings, most of which were explainable, was a cover for the
activity of 'ET craft' within our atmosphere.

3 - If not ET craft then saucer sightings that were somehow
evidence of people seeing saucers when there were none (PSH) -
which is quite ridiculous.

4 - The ease with which the USAF and US Navy intelligence people
were able to pull the wool over researchers eyes - and how they
are still doing so. 5 - The complete inability of the UFO
research community to sensibly come to terms with black projects
without going into the realms of fantasy (Tesla technology,
anti-gravity systems, Nazi occult magic, time travel etc. etc.).

And more besides.

But as they say, the most important revelations are the most
painful.

What we are seeing here is an attempt by what might be termed
the 'UFO establishment', representatives of the groups who have
benefited from ignoring the classified aircraft/black projects
angle, to bury our research.

But it won't work. People are sick and tired of this alien BS
and they want the truth. That is why just last week numerous
radio stations and newspapers in the UK reported the release of
my latest report into this subject and why there are at least
two TV companies interested in producing documentaries on this
subject.

And STILL no answer to my points about the 'operational' XF5U-1,
the 1948 AS Weyl article, my postings on Papoose Lake, Project
Silver Bug, P724, WS606A and B, P1794, Operation Paperclip, the
work of Miethe in the USA and so and so on........

Why is it that at every UFO Conference, except two in the UK
this year, there is NEVER anybody invited to talk about this
aspect? Our research doesn't answer everything, but it answers a
great deal....

Tim Matthews.

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