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From: Ignatius Graffeo <Ufoseek@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:32:17 EST
Fwd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:09:57 -0500
Subject: WingMakers Update - HOAX -11.29.98


She sure is a pretty site, though!  I like the first two musical
selections: "Warm Presence" and "WingMakers"   -ufoseek

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http://www.wingmakers.com


WingMakers Update - HOAX -11.29.98

(ewolfe@involved.com):

A few minutes ago, it finally occured to me to check Usenet for
any mention of wingmakers or Mark Hempel, the site owner.

I found a lot more than I expected.

In one post to an artist's group, he says the site took him
three years to create, he made everything on it that you see,
and that it is an idea for a movie or tv series. He calls it an
IMAF. Immersive Multimedia Art Forms.

He posted that to alt.art.video on the 24th of this month. On
the 20th of this month, he sent a message to several other
groups, (spammed them really,) saying that he had just found a
website that spoke of an alien race called Wingmakers and asked
if anyone else had ever heard of them. He went on to claim that
there was a lot of info on the site, including music, but he
couldn't get the music to work for him.

If nothing else, that alone proves his dishonesty. He owns the
site, and acts as though he stumbled across it. Anyway, thought
I'd let you know what I found out. The guy did a brilliant job,
but it disappoints me that people will go to such lengths to
fool other people.

When some truth of some matter finally does come along, we'll
all be too skeptical to even believe it after having been fooled
so many times before.

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From: "Mark Hempel" <mhempel@southbaygroup.com>
Subject: Wingmakers web site
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:30:10 -0600

Hi.

Thanks for your interest in the wingmakers web site. If you're
listed on this email, you've either been contacted by me to help
de-bunk the wingmakers site, or you've contacted me in reference
to the site. If you believe the site is a hoax, you don't need
to read the rest of this rather lengthy email. If you're not
sure or think it's real, please read further because I've found
what I believe is evidence that this site is not what it claims
to be.

As most of you know, I was asked to be the host of this web site
through a somewhat odd arrangement many months ago (it's
recorded at the www.internic.com site). I was supposed to secure
a URL and place my name on the copyright box for the Real Audio
player on the site in exchange for a fee.

I was given a completed (except for the encoding of the Real
Audio files) web site that was uploaded to my host (9netave)
around the 18th of November. Due to some unusual circumstances
that included some hacker email threats (which were successfully
traced to a library in Baltimore), I got a little paranoid and
decided to get some people together who were familiar with the
new age/paranormal/UFO community (something that is not my
specialty). I initially tried newsgroups trying to stir up
feedback, but because I sort of "spammed" the UFO newsgroups, I
don't think people took my efforts seriously. So I began my own
research into this community via the web.

In doing so, I came across numerous web sites that had email
addresses of people who were expert and/or experienced in this
field. Since about a week ago, I sent out about 30 emails to a
wide variety of people. My efforts were to seek your advice and
help in assessing the wingmaker site. Over the course of
employing your help, I've come to the following conclusion based
in part on your feedback and my own research. Not all of you
will probably agree, but I believe the site is indeed an
elaborate hoax. Or perhaps it's what the person who hired me
claimed it was, an experimental art site.

What follows are the reasons I've come to this conclusion:

1) The music is too contemporary sounding. It just doesn't sound
like something that would be produced 750 years in the future. I
really like the music, but I've had musicians listen to it and
they don't hear many sounds that seem futuristic. Every sound
that they heard could be replicated today on a synthesizer or
digital sampler.

2) According to a scientist who read the entire text of the
site, somewhere in the interview transcripts section there's a
reference to the Pleaides, which is claimed to be the seed race
of the WingMakers and humankind. This scientist says the
Pleaides is a relatively young nebula, and therefore this is not
possible.

3) I had an ex-intelligence officer from the NSA review the
site, and he read the ACIO memos and said they're completely out
of protocol standards and he doesn't believe any agency or
department of the NSA would violate these protocols.

4) The glyphs have been further researched and the connection to
Sumerian culture seems to be a stretch. There are some
similarities, but for the most part, these glyphs are not
recognizable to an anthropologist that looked at the site. There
are more Native American references than Sumerian.

5) I had a person who had read a book by Dr. Courtney Brown
called Cosmic Voyage, and he quoted passages from the book that
seemed very similar to the writings in the transcripts where
they talk about the Martians, Greys, and remote viewing in
general. It's either an amazing corroboration or someone lifted
the ideas from the book. (I sent an email to Dr. Brown asking
him to look at the site. I haven't heard back from him yet as to
his review of the site).

6) I had a linguist analyze the speech of "Dr. Anderson" and she
didn't believe a man with such a supposedly high IQ would talk
like he does, particularly if he worked 80 hours per week with
others like himself. She felt his language skills represented
someone with above average intelligence, but certainly not a
genius. (I had others give me the same response).

7) One University philosophy professor explained that while the
philosophy and glossary sections were well written and did show
insight, they're so similar to new age teachings that they are
most likely just regurgitated from among "channeled" teachings
that are fairly common in this community.

8) The technology artifacts that are represented are principally
crystalline structures that are impossible to authenticate. I
had one person who was expert with crystals and he said that the
crystals do not appear to be anything exceptional or
extraordinary.

9) If you look very carefully at the paintings, usually in the
bottom corners, it appears that there's a signature. It looks
the same on all of the paintings where it's visible. It's
impossible to make out what it says, but it looks distinctively
different than the glyphs.

Therefore, I'm calling this a hoax or experimental art site.
Afterall, to be fair with my client, she never claimed it was
anything but an experimental art site from an art collective in
Norway. It was just the lack of communication from her that got
my suspicions up, and caused me to take the time to read the
text of the site-which to me was very odd. I still haven't heard
from her (my client), but I'm asking your help to pronounce the
site a hoax, or if you'd prefer, an experimental art site. It's
taking too much time to respond to the emails I'm getting... and
this letter is what I intend to send out as my standard response
to any inquiry surrounding the site.

The client has paid me through December, so the site will be up
until at least then. My thanks to each of you for your kind help
and assistance. With warm gratitude,

Mark

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