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From: Stig Agermose <Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 06:27:30 +0200
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Subject: UFOs And EBEs: More Insider Evidence (Linda Howe)
Source: Nexus Magazine.
http://www.icom.net/~nexus/ufosebes.html
Transcript from "Coast To Coast With Art Bell" June 1. Go to
http://ww2.broadcast.com/artbell/archive98.html#jun98
and click on
6/01/98 Monday/Tuesday
to listen in RealAudio.
Stig
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UFOs & EBEs
More Insider Evidence
This testimony from a former US Army Signal Corps and CIA officer is
the latest to confirm that the US government and military are
withholding the facts about extraterrestrial craft and biological
entities.
Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 5, #5 (August-September '98).
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. nexus@peg.apc.org
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
From our web page at: http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/
by Linda Moulton Howe =A9 1998
LMH Productions
PO Box 300, Jamison, PA 18929-0300, USA
Telephone: (215) 491 9840
Fax: +1 (215) 491 9842
Since my new book, Glimpses of Other Realities Volume II: High
Strangeness, was released to nationwide US bookstores on April 1, 1998,
I have heard from several ex-military and ex-intelligence people from
around the country. They say the documents and military voices in my
new book have true information about United States Government knowledge
and cover-up of non-humans interacting with Earth.
And a month ago, in May, I was put in phone contact with a man I will
simply call "Kewper" to protect his identity at his request. Kewper
served as a First Lieutenant with the US Army Signal Corps and was a
CIA administrator at an Army base in the southeastern USA from 1957 to
1960. He provided his DD-214 and Certificate of Discharge along with a
1956 newspaper article about his being drafted. That civilian name and
Army Signal Corps base of operations were consistent with the Army
discharge papers.
I would name the Army base, but as you read further you will see that
Kewper was asked by a government watchdog to withhold that information
in order to protect current CIA-sensitive and classified operations out
of the same base in 1998.
Back in the 1957 to 1960 period, Kewper taught radio operations and
cryptography to Army Signal Corps officers under a false identification
assigned to him by the CIA. The head of that Signal Corps school had
worked for the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II.
The OSS became the Central Intelligence Agency in 1947. In addition to
teaching, Kewper's CIA boss at the Army base asked Kewper to help
analyse Top Secret cases gathered for the Air Force's Project Blue Book
investigation of unidentified flying objects.
When I first talked with Kewper a month ago, he said his security oaths
expired 30 to 35 years after he got out of the Army and CIA in 1960. So
that period ended around 1995. Therefore, he said, he now feels he's
not doing anything wrong by discussing with me his extraordinary
first-hand knowledge and experiences concerning "extraterrestrials"as
he said they were referred to in the Top Secret classified files he'd
read and analysed. However, a month ago he was not certain he wanted to
go on the public record.
On Saturday, May 30, I called him again to ask if he might now be
willing to do a radio interview as long as his real civilian name was
withheld. Since 1993 I have been reporting science and environmental
news for the nationally syndicated Chancellor Radio Broadcasting
Network. Kewper surprised me when he immediately said, "I'm afraid your
phone is tapped." He'd had a call on Monday, May 25 from a man who did
not explain who he was or for whom he worked, and did not address
Kewper by name but simply started talking. And this is what Kewper told
me on the record, under the condition that I edit out subjects that the
unidentified caller said were still sensitive. Those edits are
indicated by parenthesis notes in the following interview first
broadcast on the North American syndicated radio programs Dreamland, on
May 31, 1998, and Coast to Coast AM Hosted by Art Bell on all-night
radio, June 1-2, 1998:
Howe: You answered the phone and they said...?
Kewper: Yeah, they didn't repeat my name. They just said: "We
understand that you had a conversation with somebody in Pennsylvania in
regards to classified materials that had been classified, and we would
appreciate it if you didn't bring up the fact in an interview or
television interviews in regards to [Army base name deleted] that you
had mentioned on the telephone, and also about anything going on in the
[CIA aerial logistics deleted] or anything in regard to that. We would
really appreciate it because reporters and just interested people, if
it gets aired, may try to get into the classified area thereand, of
course, to their own physical harm."
Howe: They did not say that you could not talk about the six-fingered
humanoid film?
Kewper: No; nothing like that.
Howe: Well, then, could we do an interview today? Not for name
attribution but to put you on the radio as a person who servedand you
can tell me how you want it describedand who saw this film, and you
could try to give me the year. Can we do that?
Kewper: Yeah, I guess so, as long as I don't bring up anything about...
Howe: So you were getting the reports that Project Blue Book was
collecting; that they were allowing to the public only those they were
explaining. You were actually handling the files that were unexplained?
Kewper: Yes. Probably not all of them, but at least we were one of the
groups investigating the unexplained. I know when they closed down
Project Blue Book they said they had found absolutely nothing as far as
what they did in Project Blue Book that wasn't explained. And that was
actually true because anything they didn't explain would be sent to
Fort Belvoir in Virginia and then farmed out from there to other
military. The FBI was involved with some of the things, too, I know,
because FBI would show up on some of these peoples' doorsteps.
Howe: What were the years that you were personally working in the CIA
and handling these highly classified reports related to the UFO
phenomenon?
Kewper: 1957 to 1960. I was in the service starting in 1956, but I
didn't get involved with this in the first year, you know.
Howe: And your rank was what and in which military branch?
Kewper: I was in the Army and a First Lieutenant. I was still actually
in the Army Signal Corps, but I also worked for the CIA, too, because I
was getting two paychecks. I was getting one from the CIA and one from
military service.
Howe: Now, in the course of this work from 1957 to 1960, did you see
any 16-mm films related to this phenomenon?
Kewper: In regard to UFOs in Roswell, you mean?
Howe: Right.
Kewper: The only film I saw is the one that has been released in the
last couple of years showing an alien autopsy. I saw that very same
film in 1957.
Howe: And what were the circumstances in which you saw this?
Kewper: It was in regard to studying UFOs, in working up and going
through and trying to cover or investigate some of these folders we had
in regard to the different sightings. Apparently someone at Fort
Belvoir, Virginia, sent that film to my boss. The team viewed the thing
one Saturday morning and he had to send it right back to Fort Belvoir
again. But we did see that one. And we also saw several other at that
time highly classified UFO sightings on film. We had one film showing a
UFO actually developing or materialising over a power plant out in one
of the western states like Oregon or Washington or Utahsomewhere out in
that area.
Howe: You mean someone just happened to be filming?
Kewper: Yes. Someone was trying a brand new camera and they were
filming this power plant. First, the mountainous areas around, and then
they were over to this power plant. The power plant had a smokestack
and had some smoke going on up. And a little ways away from where the
smoke was going up, we started seeing little white, round...like a
little piece of a cloud. It got more and more dense, and more and more
round. And pretty soon you could see little tiny windows around the
bottom section. I'm just using "windows" as a term loosely. It
developed more and more, and pretty soon it looked real silver, and
soon it started flying off by itself, slowly.
Howe: So you had on film, in Central Intelligence Agency work, we'll
call it an actual materialisation of what appeared to be a hard, silver
disc that literally just emerged from what looked like a vaporous cloud?
Kewper: Yes; just a little ways from a cloud emitted by the smokestack.
So we thought at that time that these aliens must have some way of
materialising or travelling from one area to another and materialising,
by using the current that was down in the power plant somehow to change
the electric currents...into something electromagnetic or something
solid, like solid material.
Howe: Now, how was the autopsy/dissection of the six-fingered humanoid
film presented to you? What was the explanation of how this had
occurred?
Kewper: They just said that this was done at Roswell, the same day or
day afterthe same, I thinkthe craft was picked up at night; that some
time during the next day this autopsy was performed there at the
military base, and also an autopsy was performed in town in the little
clinic or hospital they have there.
Howe: Now that would contradict the statement released with the
autopsy/dissection film by the alleged cameraman who said he was there
and filmed the wreckage and the beams that had the symbols, and that
about two weeks later, I believe, he was asked to go to some place to
film the autopsy dissection. Do you know how to reconcile these two
pieces of information?
Kewper: No, I don't, because we were toldit mentioned right in the
filmthat it was done in New Mexico, that most of the film was done
right there at the military base outside of Roswell and that some
little parts of the film were done at the local hospital or clinic.
Howe: And what was the briefing to you about these six-fingered
humanoids? How were they described? Was there any information?
Kewper: There was little info in regards to that. The film was about 10
years old at that time, and they just said this was the only film that
we have of the aliens and the body. There are pictures that have been
taken by different private people showing these aliens walking around
outside their craft, something like that, but this is the only film
that we have that shows a close picture of the aliens and exactly what
they look like. So, if you run across any more of these sightings that
people have sent in that describe this particular being, then you can
match them up according to this.
Howe: Was the film you saw in black and white or colour?
Kewper: It was black and white.
Howe: And did you ever see any colour film or photographs of these
beings?
Kewper: No, not of the beings. The only coloured film I remembered
seeing was of that spaceship materialising.
Howe: Now, you were working for the CIA and this was tangential to
Project Blue Book. How were you shown this film? What were the
screening conditions? Were you in Washington? Were you in the South?
Kewper: Yeah, they sent this down to [location deleted at Kewper's
request after anonymous phone call referenced in introduction to this
interview] and we looked at the film. Then my boss had to send it right
back the next day by a special courier they had running between Fort
Belvoir and CIA headquarters.
Howe: How many of you were there?
Kewper: About 20 of us. There were 26 people involved altogether in our
group, and I would say that about 20 of us saw it. Some were overseas
at the time. A lot of the UFO pictures that we got were not from the
United States; they were European, Central American, Mexican, and South
American sightings of UFOs. One was an Italian film. So I believe we
got it down there at the CIA because the CIA had facilities in all
these foreign countries to be able to try to verify some of these
things; because we had men in all the different parts of the world.
Howe: So this was your first visual sort of experience with something
non-human. Do you remember what you thought at the time?
Kewper: Yeah, I was kind of perplexed. I thought: How can this be? How
can these beings come here? How can they be completely different from
man?
Howe: But sort of resembled us in a humanoid-shape way.
Kewper: Yes, they did; they did resemble us. That particular alien, the
six-fingered alienyou might say it didn't resemble us completely, but
it looked like a miniature man with a smaller head, but it wasn't the
great big narrow face with the big eyes. It didn't have ears like we
have; it had a little circle around a hole inside of its skull. The
ears didn't look like [ours]. The nose looked basically like [ours] and
the mouth was much smaller.
Howe: Do you remember if this film was shown to you in 1957, 10 years
after 1947? Was there any knowledge then among the intelligence
agencies from any communication with these beings about what their
origin was?
Kewper: Nothing really. While I was there, the whole three years, we
never saw any information about where they came from and what they were
doing here. Nothing was ever brought out in regards to that. My boss
and I were both wondering about that: Why were they here? Why would
they come here? And where were they from? During that period of time,
as far as I know, the government had no idea where they were from or
what they were trying to do here.
Howe: From a military and CIA point of view, were they considered a
threat?
Kewper: Not really a threat, but there was a questionable threat; and
they were working under that assumption to try to increase the
different radar around the country more so that they could detect if
they were coming in from outer space and be able to get some type of
scrambling from the Air Force's nearest base to check it out or shoot
them down or whatever.
Howe: Were you ever given a briefing or exposed to any other
information between 1957 and 1960 beyond that screening of the
autopsy/dissection film?
Kewper: I would say no, not during that time. We just had the various
foreign, a few domestic, but mostly foreign sightings that we had gone
over. We had people overseas who would go and interview these people
who had photographs of aliens outside of a saucer, but nothing at that
time. Basically I saw just the film of the autopsy on that particular
being; but, like I mentioned, when I went to Area 51 in 1958 I did see
another type of a being where it was the peaked face, the great big
eyes and the little chin that has always been termed a "grey", I
believe.
Howe: Okay, can you describe that experience?
Kewper: We were out there for a meeting of all the CIA people around
this country and over towards the Far East and so on, and we had the
meeting there at Area 51. We were involved with this Project Blue Book
thing and they wanted the meeting there, so some of us involved
directly with itthere were only five of us that went from [name of Army
base deleted] and we were the only five that had the meeting out there.
They had meetings right in the main buildings of the Air Force, a
little base they had there.
Howe: At Nellis AFB in Nevada.
Kewper: Yes. But we went out to Groom Lake area and the two areas they
had out there. They showed it to us, but only to us and not to the CIA
people from the Far East or from Central America. They didn't go out
there; it was only the five of us. We landed at Area 51 at the main
landing strip. Then we got into a van-type of small minibus. After
that, we didn't stop to get into any other buildings there.
They took us down about 10 miles away, something of that nature, and
stopped at the first special area. And they took us into the area
there, and they had U-2s and also the SR-71 BlackbirdsI believe they
were flying them at that time. We were there a short period of time,
and then we got back on the bus and went about another eight miles to
the third and final area where they had highly classified material. We
stopped there and went into an office area first, and then a colonel
there met us and took us on a tour. He took us first of all down a
walkway into a hangar area that had been carved out. It might have been
a natural cave to start out with, but at least it was carved out of the
mountainside area. It was not extremely large.
Howe: Was this the Papoose mountain range?
Kewper: I wouldn't really know. I don't think I ever questioned what
the mountains were.
Howe: Okay, but so I am clear, this is a colonel who is joining you and
your CIA boss and three other CIA men in your program?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: Were there only six of you?
Kewper: Yes. As we passed through different areas, naturally there were
other workers and scientists working on different things, and office
personnel.
Howe: And did you understand what the reason was that your boss was
having you go to have this tour by this colonel?
Kewper: Yes. They wanted us to see the craft so when we looked at
pictures, trying to identify fake pictures from the real thing, this
would be a help to us. That was the main reason why we were toured
through the area to see the different types of craft, so we could pick
out the [hoaxed] "garbage can covers" from the real craft.
Howe: So the six of you, with the colonel, your CIA boss, yourself and
these three other CIA men involved in this project, you're going,
literally moving, walking into a carved-out area of a mountain?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: Can you describe exactly what you saw?
Kewper: As soon as we got in, the first thing we did see were two small
craft.
Howe: What colour were they?
Kewper: They were silver, kind of a silver finish to them; not real
shiny and bright, but basically silver.
Howe: What was the diameter?
Kewper: About 18 or 20 feet. They were quite small.
Howe: Were you allowed to go over and touch them?
Kewper: No. We were on a walkway area and couldn't get down over to
where the craft were actually sitting.
Howe: And how many others could you see?
Kewper: At least about seven, I think. There were some larger ones that
were in the rear towards the end that we could see down there because
they were probably 50 to 60 feet in diameter.
Howe: Could you see any characteristics on these? Were any different
from another?
Kewper: They were all disc-shaped, but some had larger bottom areas
that extended down the same as the top, the top extending up. And they
were in different colours. The larger ones in the rear were a real
deep, real dark grey colour, and some of the other ones were lighter in
colour, but maybe like a light- or medium-brown type of thing. The
larger ones in the rear had real large top units and large bottom units
to them and were sitting on metal saw-horses to hold them up off the
ground.
Howe: And did the colonel try to explain, or did he have knowledge or
any understanding of the propulsion system of the extraterrestrial
craft?
Kewper: That question was asked, and he mentioned it was
electromagnetic/antigravitational-type engines. But some of the craft
had other propulsion systems also, but he didn't go into great detail
on other propulsions. Apparently it was like antimatter propulsion on
one of the units, something of that nature.
And I saw they'd tried to reverse-engineer one craft, so part of it was
taken apart. They were trying to figure out how it works, and he was
explaining to us that there really was no physical motor in that thing.
The entire disc was like an electronic circuit, and the aliens had to
be inside of this disc to complete the electronic circuit to make it
fly. The Area 51 people knew that, because they had tried to make that
one fly. It was just like a battery electrical unit; it worked with
antigravitational/electromagnetic drive, but the whole saucer itself
was like the drive of the ship. It was all coated with nickel inside
and it was like a giant circuit, an electronic circuit. And it took the
aliens to complete the circuit because they were tied right in with it:
they had headbands they wore that had detectors on, and they had
finger-type board control where they could fly the craft.
Howe: Those are the hand-imprinted, six-fingered control panels that
were with that autopsy film?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: And did you see the panels themselves actually there with the
craft?
Kewper: Yes. They were there with the craft. They were trying to figure
out the electronic circuitry because there was no wiring of any kind
that they could see. But later on when they had it at Groom Lake, they
had a couple of scientists there who used microscopes to check over the
fingertip-control harnessing and found little fibres going out from it.
They found out then that it was a fibre optic type of electrical
transmission throughout the craft.
Howe: All done with light.
Kewper: Yes, it was light. The report I read originally said that when
they looked inside the craft it was glowing with a real thin light
inside from all the circuitry fibre optics. Reverse-engineering of that
is apparently where we got fibre optics from.
Howe: What was the colonel saying to you about these discs in
relationship to where you were going next?
Kewper: He just stated that these are some of the craft we have picked
up and captured in different parts of the world. Apparently some of
them were even brought in from overseas from some point or other, but I
gathered that most were captured within the US. He then mentioned that
we were going back out to the general office area and another smaller
hangar area to see the being, this extraterrestrial being, that they
had there at that time.
Howe: Try to walk us through what happened next.
Kewper: Okay. We went from the hangar area where the saucers were, out
to a covered walkway area and into an office complex, I would call it,
because it was a bunch of small rooms and offices. They had a special
room for viewing that had one-way windows in itone-way mirrors, rather.
We could look through the window into this small office, and the being
that was in there was not able to see us through the mirror because
there was a mirror on his side.
Howe: And what happened?
Kewper: They said we could go in and talk to this being, and at that
time I chose not to go in. Years later, I wished I had, but I chose not
to go in because they did tell us that the being spoke telepathically.
The colonel had more terms added to it other than telepathically, but
the being wouldn't speak in any manner that we could hear through our
ears. So I chose to stay out, and the other four people did go in.
Howe: Your boss, the three other CIA guys and the Colonel Jim?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: Now, can you describe the being exactly, from your watching this
and listening?
Kewper: What the colonel called him was a "grey". He had the large head
and bigger eyes, kind of slanted bigger eyes. He looked like he was
wearing sunglasses because the lenses were real dark. He had kind of a
slim face down to a peaked chin with just a little nose area, a tiny
slit of a mouth and just holes in the side of his head for ear openings.
Howe: About how tall?
Kewper: About five feet, something like that.
Howe: What was the surface of the skin like in colour and texture?
Kewper: Yeah, it was greyish looking, but it looked fairly coarse, not
like the smoothness of our skin.
Howe: Now what happened between your boss, the three CIA guys and
Colonel Jim in that room communicating with the being?
Kewper: My boss did ask him, "What are you doing here? And why do you
come here?" The only answer he got was, "We are not here to conquer the
Earth. We are not here to destroy anything. We are here to add
knowledge to humans so they can gain more knowledge in different areas."
He [the CIA boss] said it was probably like a 16- or 20-letter name
where he was from, but he couldn't remember what the being said. After
he came out and we left, I asked him and he said, "I don't remember
what it was, but it was a real long name that he had given us as far as
where he was from." He'd asked if it was a part of the galaxy or if
that was his planet. He said the being answered back to him that it was
part of a galaxy he was from. Not our galaxy, but a different galaxy.
Howe: A different galaxy?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: When the being had "telepathed" to your boss that it wasn't here
to hurt anything but to impart knowledge, how would they impart
knowledge to us if they weren't making themselves public to the Earth
in a straightforward way?
Kewper: I remember my boss mentioning that when he said that, he
denoted the creature was stretching the truth or lying just by the tone
of the answer, this type of thing; that he wasn't telling the truth
altogether, you know.
Howe: Did your boss and the other men explain to you how the telepathic
process went? What did they experience?
Kewper: They said they definitely weren't hearing a thing through their
ears and that the voice they heard more or less was right in the mind
itself. They could put their fingers in their ears and they would still
hear the being. One tried that; he plugged both ears to see if he could
still hear the being, and he could.
Howe: Oh, you could see through the glass that one of the men actually
put his fingers in his ears?
Kewper: Yes, to see if he was actually hearing the being, and he
wasn't, but he just heard what the being said right in his mind.
Howe: What was the sound of the being in his mind?
Kewper: He said the voice almost sounded like an electronically
reproduced voice. And now, of course, we have computers that can talk
to us and answer the phone with a computer voice. Back in those days,
that type of thing was just beginning with computers. He said it didn't
sound like a human voice: it sounded like an electronic voice.
Howe: Neither male nor female?
Kewper: Neither one, sort of in between.
Howe: Why would the concept of a telepathic-communication being bother
you?
Kewper: Well, naturally, it's something I'd never run across before;
that would be a certain amount of bother, you know.
Howe: Did you ever learn in your work for the CIA what the relationship
was between the six-fingered beings and the grey being?
Kewper: Nope, never did.
Howe: Did someone explain why this being was even being kept there?
Kewper: No. They wouldn't tell us why he was kept there, how long he
had been there or anything like that. I think one of the answers was,
"We can't talk about that." I believe that was the main answer.
Howe: And who at Area 51 seemed to be in control of this being? Which
agency?
Kewper: It was the Air Force, actually. The Air Force colonel is the
one we talked to.
Howe: Did this colonel or anybody explain to you what their perception
was of this grey being from the standpoint of whether there was any
kind of a threat?
Kewper: No, they didn't really consider it like a big threat, but there
was always this: "We don't know for sure, but we don't think they are
going to be harmful to us, but we don't really know for sure. We can't
say for sure that they are not trying to invade, or checking us all out
and checking out our military." Because even at that time, the saucer
sightings were always around classified areas and any military bases,
that type of thing. So it looked almost like they were scouting, you
know.
Howe: By the time you left the Army Signal Corps and CIA in 1960, did
you have any further briefings about the beings, and were they referred
to as "extraterrestrials"?
Kewper: Yes, they were referred to as "extraterrestrials". Most of the
time they referred to the one out there as a "grey".
Howe: The one at Area 51?
Kewper: Yes. They just referred to it as a "grey".
Howe: Did they have any live six-fingered humanoids anywhere?
Kewper: No, not that I know of. That was one of the questions I asked
the military man on the way in thereif this was the same kind of being.
He'd mentioned they had a being that we were going to look at, and I
asked if it was the same being as Roswell. He said no. And I asked if
they had any beings like at Roswell, and he said no.
Howe: And Roswellfrom your point of view in 1957 when you were shown
the six-fingered humanoid film, did it identify in the introduction
where exactly the six-fingered humanoids had been retrieved from?
Kewper: They just said "near Roswell".
Howe: But they didn't specify?
Kewper: No, no. They didn't specify if that was the craft they had
captured near Roswell; they didn't specify that. They just said "near
Roswell", and I understand they had two or three craft they had picked
up there that same summer of 1947.
Howe: Did anyone talk about the weather balloon story as being
deliberately floated to obscure...?
Kewper: Yes, they did, and they said it was a cover story. The weather
balloon was a cover story.
Howe: To cover up the fact that extraterrestrials and craft were
retrieved.
Kewper: Yes. And I asked them why they covered this up. This was 10
years later...
Howe: In 1957?
Kewper: Right, in 1958 [while visiting Area 51]. I asked him [Colonel
Jim], "Why do you continue to cover this up?" Well, he said it was
covered originally because the Cold War was just starting and somebody
up in the governmentI'm sure it was probably President Trumanhad
requested a tight cover on this because with the Cold War starting and
now having aliens flying around, he thought it would be too much for
the American public all at once. But it was perpetuated, and even to
this day they are still covering it with balloon stories.
Howe: Now it is 1998. This is 40 years after you first saw the 16-mm
black and white film of the six-fingered humanoid dissection, and there
still appears to be a policy of silence and denial about this
extraterrestrial interaction. Why do you think the government has not
told the United States and the world what they know?
Kewper: You would think they would have by now. But I know that at the
same time through the Cold War era back in the 1950sI was involved with
itthe CIA in a lot of cases in regards to these unidentified flying
objects did contact and work with even the Russians during that time of
the Cold War to see what they had, because the Russians had contacted
us in regards to UFOs as they had UFO sightings also. They contacted us
because they thought it might be some kind of advanced flying craft
that we had, and they were calling us to warn us to keep them out of
their area because they thought they were our craft. We told them they
were not ours.
Howe: If Russia and the United States were secretly trying to talk with
each other about an extraterrestrial presence, did you ever have any
further information over the last 40 years about what our government's
understanding of the agenda or intent of these beings is by now?
Kewper: I know that we have worked together with Russia on this,
especially since the Gorbachev thing and we became more friendly; and
that Russia is involved with particle beam weapons, too, from satellite
and from ground. We had actually given them the particle beam weapon to
be able to shoot down any of the saucer craft.
Howe: But why would we try to shoot down craft if we perceived these
beings to be benevolent?
Kewper: Well, it could be something that happened since that time. I
believe it would have happened over the [former] Soviet Union because I
know they had a big craft go over that was almost like a mother ship,
and they tried to shoot it down but the thing just shot all the
aircraft that they had pursuing it, right out of the air in just a few
seconds, with whatever lasers or whatever they [alien craft] haddeath
rays, something like that.
Howe: What is the source of your information on this?
Kewper: This is through my friend, through my boss's son. When he
talked to me in 1993 he mentioned that they'd had an ugly incident
there where the aliens had actually attacked some type of a military
base from where they had sent the planes up to attack [the mother ship].
Howe: Did you ever learn what type of being was in that craft?
Kewper: No, I didn't. Nobody did. It was a flyover-type thing and
nothing landed, so no one would know what was actually in there. But I
know the big craft contained many small saucer craft; it was almost
like an aircraft carrier, like we would have with airplanes on it.
Howe: So, in summary, you went from 1957 to 1960 seeing these highly
classified reports about extraterrestrial beings, technology and craft.
You actually saw 16-mm black and white autopsy/dissection film of the
six-fingered humanoid when you were in the CIA. You actually went to
Nevada, to Nellis AFB and Area 51, where you personally saw at least
seven different craft and the live being that was described as a "grey"
with large black eyes and was different from the six-fingered humanoid.
And yet, when you left the Army Signal Corps and CIA work in 1960,
there was still no understanding about the relationship between those
beings or why they were there.
Kewper: Yes, that's right; one- hundred-per-cent right. At that time
there was a question mark, a big question mark as to why they were
here. In some casesapparently some of the US sightingsthey were
tremendously friendly.
Howe: Were friendly?
Kewper: Yes, were friendly. And, of course, there were all the
abduction things that came out later. There weren't any in that
original Blue Book file that I had seen at that time in Blue Book. I
know there were quite a few later that said they were abducted.
Howe: And did you ever see any references to animal mutilations or
unusual deaths?
Kewper: Yes. At that time we had it out in Colorado, I think. I saw
some of those. Different parts of the animal were taken like samplesthe
stomachs in some, sex organs in othersand [the animals were] apparently
mutilated with a laser weapon of some kind that left very precise
cutting edges.
Howe: Did you read about any such cases in that 1957 to 1960 time
period?
Kewper: Yes, especially from Colorado.
Howe: Even back then?
Kewper: Yes.
Howe: And was there speculation on the part of the Central Intelligence
Agency or the military about the relationship between these unusual
animal deaths and the extraterrestrials?
Kewper: Yes. The only thought at that time, if I remember correctly, is
that they [extraterrestrials] were taking samples of these various
animals on the Earth just to see more or less what their different
functions were...
Howe: Do you think that this story should be told in its entirety today?
Kewper: Yes, I think it should. I think it would be helpful in
explaining it, first of all. We still have a lot of sightings to this
day and age.
Howe: And this is why you're talking to me?
Kewper: Yes.
EPILOGUE:
After this audiotaped interview was broadcast on the North American
syndicated radio programs Dreamland and Coast To Coast AM Hosted by Art
Bell, I learned from Kewper that he'd contacted a phone company
executive in his city to inquire about the source of the anonymous call
to him on May 25. He was told that the source was the Wackenhut
Corporationa security operation that works for the National
Reconnaissance Office and other sensitive military and intelligence
agencies in the United States.
More than 50 years after the 1947 Roswell incident, a major question
is: What do the United States, England, Australia other American ally
government insidersand, according to Kewper, even Russiaknow which
sustains the Orwellian policy of silence and denial in which lies are
ordered to become official truth?...as written so strongly in SOM1-01,
the Majestic&endash;12 Group Special Operations Manual of April 1954:
Any encounter with entities known to be of extraterrestrial origin is
to be considered to be a matter of national security and therefore
classified TOP SECRET. Under no circumstance is the general public or
the public press to learn of the existence of these entities. The
official government policy is that such creatures do not exist, and
that no agency of the federal government is now engaged in any study of
extraterrestrials or their artifacts. Any deviation from this stated
policy is absolutely forbidden.
What will it take to change this policy instigated by US President
Harry S. Truman's Executive Order in 1947? What
military-industrial-complex interests are so vested in perpetuating the
suppression, and why? It seems a right of the entire global human
family to know that we are not alone in this universe, and that
extraterrestrial biological entities and other-dimensional entities
have been interacting with this planet for aeons, affecting our
biological, social and religious evolutions. But why?
Note: If any readers have more information, please fax Linda Moulton
Howe in the USA on (215) 491 9842, or write to her as per details on
the first page of this article.
About the Author:
Linda Moulton Howe is a graduate of Stanford University, USA, and has a
Masters Degree in Communication. She is a science and environmental
reporter for radio and television. Her film documentaries, A Strange
Harvest and Strange Harvests 1993, explored the worldwide animal
mutilations phenomenon. Her books include An Alien Harvest, Glimpses of
Other Realities&endash;Volume I: Facts & Eyewitnesses, and, most
recently, Glimpses of Other Realities&endash;Volume II: High
Strangeness (Paper Chase Press, USA, phone (702) 826 5947; see review
this issue).
Ms Howe's investigations have taken in such diverse subjects as crop
circles, the chupacabras mystery, humanity's hidden history, and the
evidence for UFOs and ETs, including research into the alleged Roswell
UFO crash fragments and government knowledge and cover-up of non-human
intelligences interacting with our planet.
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