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From: Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:39:35 -0700
Fwd Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:00:02 -0400
Subject: Ed Dames


There has been an article circulating on the Internet for the
past couple of weeks which quotes Ed Dames as discussing some
key Scientology concepts/terms on one of his training tapes.
It's a well-known fact that some of the early researchers into
remote viewing were one-time Scientologists.  But this article
goes into conspiracy hyper-drive in connecting WAY too many
dots.

The article speculates that these early researchers were very
highly-placed Scientologists. I haven't seen any evidence of
that and given the emotional tone of the article from the
Veritas group and their behavior toward me when I tried to
clarify a few things, I wouldn't accept any of the content there
as gospel.  I haven't seen the Dames tape in question, I believe
it's tape #2 in his series, but I'm not sure.  I will take their
word for the fact that Ed actually said these things (although
perhaps that's too large an assumption).

The article is quite lengthy, but someone on one of the mailing
lists
described the bottom line like so,

> Why Does Scientology's Church of Spiritual Technology own copyrights ot
> technologies used by the CIA and PSI-Tech's Major Ed Dames? And why did Ed
> Dames deny it on a popular National Radio Show?

To which I responded:

They DON'T!  I tried to clear this up with the Veritas people --
the ones who originally posted this article -- a couple of weeks
ago. They were quite uninterested in discovering the truth of
the matter and accused me of being a disinformation agent!
Harrumph!

I have been trained through the Advanced level of "CRV" or
"Controlled Remote Viewing," which is one form of remote viewing
taught and used at the Ft Meade unit.   The person who taught
me, who is one of the ex-military remote viewers (NOT Ed Dames,
who wasn't a viewer in any case), is teaching the exact same
remote viewing that they used in the unit. And I can tell you,
without hesitation -- and if you don't believe me there are
about 200 other trained CRVers you can ask -- NONE of the
Scientology terminology or concepts themselves referred to in
this article are part of CRV.  None.  Nada. Zip.

I don't know if Ed Dames is or was a Scientologist.  I choose to
ignore him for a multitude of reasons, the least of which is
this possible connection.

It should be evident to ANYONE with the sort of interests that
would lead them to subscribe to a list like this that Ed Dames
is a renegade! The other Ft Meade remote viewers have made that
fairly (although politely) clear on Art Bell and other venues.
And they certainly aren't promoting the kind of apocalytic BS
that Ed peddles on Art Bell every other week.  (Well...I guess
he'll have to find another venue for awhile.)

The inclusion of Scientology concepts on Ed Dames' training
tapes isn't the only deviation from traditional CRV, there are
several at least -- none of which are an improvement and to a
trained CRVer several don't even make sense.  (Not just my
opinion, my well-circulated critique of Ed's first tape was met
with many compliments from some of the ex-military RVers, so I
guess they concur.)

Ed Dames is a strange dude. Originally he claimed he'd
"improved" on Controlled Remote Viewing, but used the old
xeroxes of the original military manual as his own training
manual, not even bothering to change the cover page to reflect
his new "TRV" nomenclature.  Later he comes out with the
training tapes and THEN he decides to deviate from the more
traditional form.  And perhaps he thought a few Scientology
concepts would enhance something...I wouldn't know.

It might make for good conspiracy reading to link the CIA and
Scientology and SRI and the Army and so on, and so on.  But it's
not
reality.

HAVE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR?

[THANK YOU! --ebk]


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Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>