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From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 98 10:40:22 PDT
Fwd Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:15:37 -0400
Subject: Re: -[For The Record]- P-1947: Death of Roswell


>Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:11:20 -0500 (CDT)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
>Subject: Re: -[For The Record]- P-1947: Death of Roswell

>>From: David Rudiak <DRudiak@aol.com>
>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:38:38 EDT
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: -[For The Record]- P-1947: Death of Roswell

>>And I'm sure there are others who kept it all to themselves and
>>never told anybody, not even their spouse or children. People
>>are different. Is that really so hard to understand?

>>David Rudiak

>Not at all, especially if you believe in a security oath (death
>threats optional) that apparently doesn't count for a hill of
>beans.

>Or an Air Force, supposedly still engaged in the massive cover
>up of the Roswell debris and bodies, allowing many of the major
>players in the original drama to speak freely with anyone who
>found their phone number, if they were so inclined.

>Hey, you wanna talk about the Cosmic Watergate, the greatest
>secret and cover up in the history of the world, go ahead! Do
>what you think best. Originally, we had it classified higher
>than the H-bomb, but what the hell, people are different.
>Besides, it's been 40 or 50 years now, so say whatever you want
>to whomever you want. Hey, you didn't take that security oath
>stuff seriously, did you? Jeez, we were only joking!

>You-know-who is always reminding us that these were all
>hand-picked men capable bigod of keeping a secret when their
>country asked them to.

>It just strikes me as a dichotomy, that's all. But I do agree
>that "People Are Different" would make for a nice recruiting
>poster for the AF, CIA or NSA, or whoever it is that's still
>actively covering up Roswell. Down at the bottom they could put
>something like "Our security oaths last only as long as your
>enlistment!"

>You may be right that the ones who talked did so only because of
>the long passage of time. But since they weren't interviewed
>earlier, we'll never know. All we know generally is that some
>appear to have talked the first time they were asked by anyone.
>Marcel would be the perfect example. Friedman only learned of
>him because he had already told others. Who did he first tell
>and when? How many did he tell in all? We'll probably never
>know. All we can surmise is that his story must have been spread
>pretty wide for Friedman to bump into it on a sheer "accidental"
>encounter.

>Does this tell us something about Marcel? Of course it does. But
>since it's politically incorrect to discuss Marcel here in
>anything less than a prayerful, bowed posture, I won't.
>
>Dennis

Dennis,

I am at a loss to understand just about anything you're saying
here. Of course people are different. Of course people, or at
least some people, talk about things that are supposed to be
secret, usually after the passage of time has convinced him that
there's no harm either to the nation or to themselves in doing
so. This happens all the time outside UFO contexts. Apparently
your hatred of the Roswell case is such that you have convinced
yourself, if nobody else, that people always keep secrets and
that only crazy ufologists think otherwise.

Thank you, by the way, for restraining yourself from the further
trashing of Jesse Marcel, Sr.'s, good name. Maybe there's hope
after all.

Jerry Clark