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From: Jan Aldrich <jan@cyberzone.net> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:08:52 -0800 Fwd Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:49:33 -0500 Subject: Re: MUFON Journal: FOIA-Released Doc Designating >MUFON Journal: FOIA-Released Doc Designating MJ-12 >From: stig.agermose@get2net.dk >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 02:52:31 +0100 (MET) >Fwd Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:55:27 -0500 >Subject: MUFON Journal: FOIA-Released Doc Designating MJ-12 >The source is "alt.alien.research". >BTW. The document is NOT one of the alleged MJ-12 documents, >which have been published by the Woods and Joe Firmage and come >from an anonymous source, as many of you will know. >Stig *** >From: Aaron LeClair <saucer@bellsouth.net> >Newsgroups: alt.alien.research >Subject: This months MUFON journal >Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:09:52 GMT >Does any one have any more info (other than hat is given in the >article, of course) on the cover story of this month's journal? >It deals with an alledged alien skeleton found in or around >Aurora Texas. There is a picture of it on the front. Something >like this should be easy to prove alien or not, why it's taking >so long, I don't know. >There is also a article on Majestic 12. It states (in part), The >hunt for a genuine US Gov. doc. that shows the use of MJ-12 is >over. The breakthrough comes from the FOIA effort of Tim Cooper. >his doc. released by the CIA, is from the Paperclip files, >Record Group 330, JIOA files, released Nov.7, 1985. It is a memo >from Hillenkoetter on 12 April 49 to the Joint Chiefs of Staff >(JCS) that, while otherwise unclassified, shows file >distribution to a CIA Top Secret control file and to MJ-12. This >is unambiguous evidence that there was such a project. To our >knowledge this is the first and only FOIA-released doc. >designating MJ-12. A censor has lined through the distribution >block, but did not obliterate it. (end of that paragraph). >Comments, anyone? My comment is: What FOIA? Where is the FOIA cover letter? This document originates again with Tim Cooper! I suggest you go back and read again Tim Good's comments on Tim Cooper's letters. See: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1999/mar/m16-011.shtml Here is a simple challenge: Supply the rest of the finding information for this document: Records Group: 330, Entry: Description: Box Number: All that information should have been provided on the FOIA! Instead what do we get? >From this message we are told: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1999/mar/m28-001.shtml "This is a Nov. 7, 1985 FOIA release related to Paperclip files that most likely Linda Hunt (author of Secret Agenda, 1991) was successful in declassifying. She was the head of CNN's investigative journalism unit and successfully sued for the release of some 82 boxes now within RG 330 at the National Archives." "Tim Cooper later requested, we believe, items from CIA about PAPERCLIP which resulted in the attached release. There are many other papers in this release with the same date, Nov, 7, 1985, and on the same topic." "Specifically, the document refers to project 63, which Linda Hunt wrote extensively on in her book. In short, it was an operation to bring German, Nazi, and unique scientist over to the US from 1945-1990 for either cost-effectiveness or national security reasons." This is the best we can do after two years of extensive research? In fact the investigators are not even sure if it indeed comes from a FOIA! "Tim Cooper later, we believe...." Why is the investigators don't know? Before placing yet another MJ-12 document before us without established origin, perhaps a little checking would be in order? Yet again, another MJ-12 document without established provenance! -- Jan Aldrich Project 1947 http://www.iufog.org/project1947/ P. O. Box 391, Canterbury, CT 06331, USA Telephone: (860) 546-9135
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