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From: Joe Murgia <Ufojoe1@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:31:53 EDT
Fwd Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:41:40 -0400
Subject: Re: UFOR: ::: John Alexander on MILABs :::


>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:35:22 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Francisco Lopez>d005734c@dc.seflin.org>
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: UFOR: ::: John Alexander on MILABs :::


<From: Blue Resonant Human>density4@cts.com>

>Response to Lammer et al.
>By: John B. Alexander, Ph.D.
 APOLLINAIR@aol.com

>In response to the various comments, I am submitting this
>commentary on Military Abductions (MILABs).  As with the first
>response, and contrary to assertions by Helmut Lammer, this
>commentary addresses only his MILABs, not all abduction cases.
>Interestingly, most of the respondents who have been whining on
>the Internet do not even address the question at hand.  That is
>human, not alien, interventions.


John,

Is there hard evidence that MILABS are going on? No. Is there
hard evidence that abductions are taking place? No. Is there
hard evidence that aliens are visiting opur planet? No. Does
this mean that it is not happening? No.

You seem to be claiming that you know every type of technology
that is available to a black ops group. What if there is
technology and groups that you are not aware of? There's no way
for you to know if there is info. out there that you don't have
clearance to know. I don't care what your classification level
is, if they don't want you to know something, then you won't
know it no matter how knowledgeable you think you are. No
offense.

I think you make too many assumptions as to why a group of black
ops people would be interested in alleged abductees. Maybe
Lammer's theories aren't correct but I think there is growing
testimony that points to a human group conducting some sort of
operations on humans related to the abduction phenomenon. Are
ETs, black ops and military groups involved? I don't know. But
to lump these people in with others with psychological disorders
is not fair. How many alleged abductees and/or alleged MILAB
people  (abductee) have you talked with face to face?


>There are, however, many well-known medical conditions that
>describe these signs and symptoms. These observed or perceived
>contentions maintain that some person, or group of persons, is
>after them are indeed found amongst 10 million persons per year
>who are seen by clinicians who include social workers, clinical
>psychologists, neurologists, general practitioners and other
>primary care practitioners, and sometime by psychiatrists.  The
>vast majority of these persons (over 90%) function very well
>within activities of daily life. Outside of a narrow, highly
>circumscribed paranoid delusion, concern, or worry-that while
>not real-these delusions are not disabling.  Most common are
>beliefs of other entities, voices, bedroom-related visions, and
>hypnagogic experiences.  Often they are accompanied over time by
>exaggerated notions of self-importance. Clinical estimates are
that over 100 million of these persons are alive today
worldwide.>

It's possible that some of these people have psychological
problems but you seem to once again, lump them all together.
If I ever had an abduction like experience, I would hesitate
before telling anybody. I certainly wouldn't tell you. You
would say that I was in the hypnagogic state.

Where's you're compassion and open mindeness? Seems
to be lacking.

Joe in Tampa