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From: Asgeir W. Skavhaug <asge-s@online.no> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:33:57 +0200 Fwd Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:37:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold's 'Flying Discs' >From: Asgeir W. Skavhaug <asge-s@online.no> >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:06:24 +0200 >Fwd Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:56:46 -0400 >Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold's 'Flying Discs' >>From: James Easton <pulsar@compuserve.com> >>Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:07:00 -0400 >>Fwd Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:53:08 -0400 >>Subject: Kenneth Arnold's 'Flying Discs' >>In response to various comments concerning the recently >>published proposal that Kenneth Arnold's celebrated, inaugural >>'UFO' (not 'flying saucer') sighting of 24 June, 1947, wasresolved. >>The two main accounts which Arnold gave of the entire incident >>were in a letter he subsequently sent to the US Air Force and in >>his much later book, 'The Coming of the Saucers'. It doesn't >>help matters that both accounts seem to be significantlydifferent. ><snip> >>Alternatively, having looked at the full picture of Arnold's >>various reports, inconsistencies and proclivity to make some >>claims which at times bordered on the absurd, I'm satisfied that >>overall there's sufficient evidence why a formation of White >>Pelicans is demonstrably the 'best fit' by a long way for >>Arnold's nine, perplexing, 'flying discs'. >>(C) James Easton >>22 July, 1999. >James & List, >Is it possible to show any real in-flight photos of these White >Pelicans, included in a mail on this List? Or, maybe some videofilm? Hi List, (Warning! This mail contains some pelican info, and is primarily intended for birders/"pelicanists".) Here are a couple of URLs regarding in flight photos of the AW pelicans: A: http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/i1250id.html (This URL also includes a summer map. This map are based on Breeding Bird Survey, BBS, data. The index to abundance is the count on survey routes, sum of 50, 3-min point counts. This index is about what you would expect to see in 2.5 hours of roadside birding, if you are a very good birder. Remember, the BBS is conducted in June.) Notice that specifically _one_ of the birds in the in-flight photo (click on the photo to enlarge) closely resembles a disc (!!) (or disk), when watched at the bird's in-flight level. B: http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/biodiv/birds/pelecaniformes/070147.htm Notice that "when flying, they (i.e., the AW pelicans) seem to 'sparkle' as the light plays off of their white and black feathers.", i.e., http://sazoo-aq.org/pelicans.htm Also notice that "during the spring breeding season, both sexes sprout a temporary _disk-like_ (!!) horn on the center of the top of the bill. The horn drops off when incubation begins", i.e., http://www.webh.com/grandlake/pelicans/white.htm About movies of them in flight, this might be provided "perhaps not immediately, but soon", i.e., http://ecocanada.com/seepel/messages/264.html Regards, Asgeir
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