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From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:11:50 EDT
Fwd Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:50:45 -0400
Subject: Re: 'New?' FBI memo about Roswell


 >Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:03:35 -0700
 >To: updates@globalserve.net
 >From: Neil Morris <neil@adm1.ph.man.ac.uk>
 >Subject: Re: 'New?' FBI memo about Roswell


 >>From: Michel M. Deschamps <ufoman@ican.net> >>To: UFO UpDates
- Toronto <updates@globalserve.net> >>Subject: Re: 'New?' FBI
memo about Roswell >>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:27:29 -0400

 >>>From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl> >>>Date:
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:35:02 +0200 (MET DST) >>>To: UFO UpDates -
Toronto <updates@globalserve.net> >>>Subject: 'New?' FBI memo
about Roswell

 >>>Found this at
http://www.space.com/area51/websightings_812.html

 >>>For old-school UFOlogists, the Paranormal News published an
FBI >>>memo concerning the 1947 Roswell object and 12 pages of
Project

<snip>

 >>>reflector, but that telephone conversation between their
office >>>and Wright Field had not borne out this belief."

<snip>

 >FWIW as I read it, it's _not_ the cover story but a strong hint
 >as to what _actually_ happend that evening.

 >It does _totally_ support the "Cover Story" scenario  because
of >the facts given being  _totally_ out of place in the
timeline in >view of what was else being _fed_ to the news media
that night.

 >This _URGENT_ teletype was sent out at 6.17pm FW time YET at
 >_5.30pm_ FW time, 45mins _before_, Maj Kirton of the the
 >Intellegence Office of the FWAAF was informing a reporter for
 >the Dallas Morning News that the debris was that of a High
 >Altitude Weather Balloon, nothing to make a fuss over, no need
 >to fly it on to WF, end of story. Please also note this was 1hr
 >_before_ Irving Newton's ID of the debris was sent out on the
AP >wire (6.30pm FW) AND 30 mins _before_ Newton even came ON
 >DUTY(6.00pm FW).

 >To cap it all Kirton was identified as the AF contact who gave
 >the information in the teletype to the FBI Dallas office,
 >presumably shortly before the teletype was sent, after all it
 >was marked URGENT, and I doubt the FBI would sit on this info
 >for very long. So, 5.30pm the debris was a mundane Weather
 >Balloon for the press, and stopping at Fort Worth AAF yet for
 >the FBI at aprox 6.00pm AND reported by the self same Maj
 >Kirton "telephonic conversation" with the techie's at WF "had
 >not borne out that belief" ie, it _wasn't_ 'mundane debris' and
 >it _was_ being flown on to Wright Field!. Yet at 6.30pm on the
 >AP Wire, Irving Newton says again it'a a mundane Weather
 >Balloon. Later that evening, radio reporter Joe Wilson in
 >Chicago stated he had spoken shortly before the broadcast with
 >officials at Wright Field and they were _still_ _awaiting_ the
 >debris arrival. Perhaps FWAAF hadn't told them it was just a
 >weather balloon and wouldn't be coming?.

And let us not forget that Star-Telegram photographer J. Bond
Johnson said that General Ramey told him that it was a weather
balloon when Johnson arrived to take the photographs earlier in
the day. Johnson told me, "I took two pictures [which we now
know is probably six] and then they [Ramey] said... 'Oh, we've
found out what it is and you know, it's a weather balloon and so
forth.'"

In a second interview, Johnson said, "I posed General Ramey with
this debris. At that time I was briefed on the idea that it was
not a flying disk as first reported but, in fact, was a weather
balloon that had crashed."

So, the story of the weather balloon was in place before any
reporters arrived in General Ramey's office.

KRandle, Ph.D.