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From: John C. Thompson <gin@wp-lag.mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:41:18 -0500 (EST)
Fwd Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:34:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?


 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:32:16 -0400
 >From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
 >Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:02:49 -0500 (EST)
 >>From: John C. Thompson <gin@wp-lag.mindspring.com>
 >>Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:15:23 -0400
 >>>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
 >>>Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>>>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:10:19 -0500 (EST)
 >>>>From: John C. Thompson <gin@wp-lag.mindspring.com>
 >>>>Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>>>>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:03:48 -0400
 >>>>>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
 >>>>>Subject: Re: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >>>>>To: updates@sympatico.ca

 >>>>>>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:56:13 +0000 (GMT)
 >>>>>>From: Stig Agermose <stig.agermose@get2net.dk>
 >>>>>>Subject: Roswell 'UFO Crash' Nuke Accident Cover-Up?
 >>>>>>To: updates@sympatico.ca

 >>>>>>Source: Fate's January 2000 issue,

 >>>>>>http://www.fatemag.com/articles/roswell.htm

 >>>>>>Stig

 >>>>>>***

 >>>>>>Roswell UFO Bombshell

 >>>>>>by Jim Keith

 >>>>>List:


Stan,

I will say this, you don't give up. I have read your books,
books by other's on Roswell, seen most of the documentaries done
on it. But by the far the best and most OBJECTIVE account
appeared in the June MUFON issue of 1997. Yes, you know who I
speak of: Kent Jeffrey's "Roswell--Anatomy of a Myth."

Kent spent money and much time--as you have--on investigating
the Roswell story. He was also so much taken by the subject that
he help with the International Roswell Initiative which was a
large petition to hopefully open any classified files on the
Roswell Crash.

Here was a man who was passionately involved and interviewed
many of the same people you have and many that you didn't
interview. This latter group includes "15 B-29 pilots and 2 B-29
navigatgors, all of whom were stationed at Roswell Army Air
Field in July 1947" (page 7-8).

According to Kent, a commercial airline pilot, "Not one single
man had any direct knowledge of a crashed saucer or of any kind
of unusual materail." Not one!  "...Even more significantly, in
all their collective years with the 509th Bomb Group, not one of
these men had ever encountered any other individual who had such
knowledge."

You've also refused to adequately explain why "Irvin Newton, the
weather officer at Forth Worth Army Air Field who was called in
by General Ramey to identify the unususal debris (p. 11)" told
Kent that he "immediately recognized it as being from an ML-307
radar reflector." Nor to point out that the symbols that he saw
on some balsa sticks looked remarkably like what Major Marcel's
son says he remembered seeing on a so-called "I-beam" of the
debris he saw.

Nor do you care to address that Glenn Davis's nurse, "Naomi
Self," who allegedly saw the dead aliens, doesn't exist. As an
investigator of over 120 formal UFO cases, when I find something
like this, I throw out that witness's entire testimony.

Witnesses do lie and sometimes while even signing forms to that
effect or being videoed. Court rooms are full of liars under
oath! Whole families have been know to lie under oath!

I get all kinds of stories. The bigger the whopper the easier
they fall. I'll give you one example; one that happens in the
UFO community all the time. I had a man who alleged he had
recovered debris during a dramatic UFO or meteorite event that
occurred in Georgia in Feb. 1993.

He looked good: He was in the newspaper the next day saying
debris hit his pickup and trialer. The sheriff's dept. came out
on the same night to examine his vehicle. He made a claim to his
local insurance agent for the damage done.

The police wrote up the report but it was unconclusive on what
caused the damage. The insurance company, by the witness's own
admission, denied his claim for the same reasons. But he has the
debris--so he claims. "Light as a feather" he says. He drew a
great drawing of it for me; looked much like the description of
the alleged recovered fragment of a 1952 UFO near Washington,
D.C. He also told me that the military were there the next day
and had the area sealed off briefly as they searched for more
debris.

Where is the debris now? I'm supposed to believe it is in a
storage shed in South Carolina; where he placed it after briefly
moving from Georgia because of the ridicule he caught due to the
newspaper story (a weak version of the Roswell death threats?)
Now tens of thousands were witnessed to this event; no debate on
the object coming over.

FOI requests were sent to nearly every military/ABC agency you
can think of and they all said, bull, to the story of them
having a team down here. The Sheriff said no road was blocked
off but the deputy who did the investigation lives now in
Florida and can't be reached.

The witness is middle-aged, self-employed, married, and a
college graduate. On the surface a most respectable person. I
can tell you he did a great video and took me to the site--the
same place it was reported in the newpaper the next day--where
the debris fell. He signed a MUFON general case form to what he
said and it was just as spontaneous as can be.

An independent witness had electromagnetic interference with his
FM radio when the object passed over. Tens of thousands saw it.
But the bottom line is I've seen no debris. The bottom line is
there comes a point in every investigation where when something
don't wash you have to accept that it didn't happen as the
principal witness(s) say it happened. It could be that this
witness will eventually bring me the debris but I'm not holding
my breath!

I brought up the F-4 crash as it comes as close to what should
have happened following the alleged Roswell saucer crash. It
occurred, literally, in my back yard so I got a birds-eye view
of how the Air Force went about the plane's recovery.

I saw the USAF's progess day-by-day and how they did the search.
I got the official crash report under the FOIA and it matched
exactly what I saw from day to day regarding the nearly
month-long seach for debris. No, the report was not perfect. But
it's deficency is for reasons that had nothing to do with the
search.

If 300 people turned out for an Air Alabama National recon. F-4
jet you can bet at least that many would have been looking for
an alien craft. Yet, I have not heard of one soldier who has
come forth to say he was part of the search party. Actually
since you and others have been at this steadily now for over 20
years there should've been many, many who would've step forth
with their recovery stories.

You ignore much and yell loud about less.

Kent in his article says "no UFO crashed at Roswell--with or
without aliens. It did not happen. Period. For those willing to
look objectively and rationally at all the evidence, this
contention should become resoundingly clear, not just beyond a
reasonable doubt, but beyond all doubt (p. 3)."

Obviously, many in the UFO community still don't agree with Kent; I do.

Best wishes,
John