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From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:24:29 EST
Fwd Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:14:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Robert Todd On MJ-12


>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Robert Todd On MJ-12
>Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:32:45 -0400

>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:04:07 EST
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: Robert Todd On MJ-12

<snip>

>I certainly appreciate the calm tone of Kevin's posting.

Thank you, Stan.

<snip>

>Bob Wood's document examiner, Mr. Black, has already
>professionally stated that the TF memo typeface is appropriate
>for the time frame . That will be published shortly if it hasn't
>been already.

Did he use a complete strike up of the various typefaces as did
the questioned document examiner that you contacted?

>Nobody seems to be mentioning that it was TIM GOOD in the UK
>that first published the EBD.

This could be because Barry Greenwood established that Good had
received his copies of the EBD from a "CIA" source who turned
out to be Moore. Greenwood did a devastating expose of how he
was able to prove that that Good's copy came from Moore. I even
talked about it in A History of UFO Crashes. (Hey, everyone else
is mentioning their books, so I thought I would join in.)

>Bill Moore was indeed given to playing games. That is a far cry
>from him and Jaime being  professional document forgers.

No one said they were professionals. And didn't Moore basically
admit that he had "retyped" the Aquarius Telex, added the
headings in a cut and paste job, and then admit that the MJ-12
reference wasn't there in the first place?

<snip>

>I have been told that forgers are normally very very careful to
>do nothing that calls their work into question. That is
>certainly not the case here. with the unusual Classification,
>traceable paper etc Kevin is aware that I have dealt at length
>with his objections to  the MJ-12 documents in my 37 page, l994,
>paper "Operation Majestic 12? YES!". I am pleased that at least
>I am not being named as a forger. Even Phil Klass hasn't gone
>that far.

Certainly aware of the paper but don't buy the arguments.

>While most on this list are probably aware that Kevin and I have
>had strong differences, they may not be as aware that the
>communicatons between Kevin and Don Schmitt and Bill and Jaime
>were as I recall much stronger.

Please leave me out of that. Schmitt was the one allegedly in
contact with Moore and Shandera. As far as I know, I have never
spoken to Bill Moore and met Shandera once, in Roswell, in 1997
and we didn't talk about MJ-12 or anything like that. He was
busy trying to convince me that J. Bond Johnson hadn't said that
Ramey told him, Johnson, that the debris was from a balloon. I
didn't buy that argument either.

KRandle