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From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:16:35 EST
Fwd Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:53:33 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Eprime' In Action


>From: John W. Ratcliff <jratcliff@worldnet.att.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: 'Eprime' In Action
>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:33:44 -0600

>In some message I posted on UFO UpDates a while back, I made
>disparaging remarks which included Jeff Rense of
><www.sightings.com> fame. A few members of the peanut gallery,
>lurkers all, e-mailed me grand huzzah's for calling Hoagland to
>task, but tsked, tsked, me for including Rense with that hoary
>horde of paranormal pontificators. While Jeff Rense probably is
>fairly rational in real life, the fact remains that his web site
>continues to sponsor articles about speech reversals, and other
>irrational nonsense, thus thrusting him into the category of
>'part of the problem' rather than 'part of the solution.'

<snip>

>But, _why_, _why_, if someone has this kind of an experience do
>they immediately endow this experience with such awe, reverence,
>and unbridled belief? Quit their jobs, start up web sites,
>destroy their lives all following the unproven claims perceived
>through a visionary experience? Perhaps it's time to be less
>skeptical of the contactee and a bit more skeptical of the
>contactor?


Hello John, List....

I feel compelled to write a form of rebuttal to some of your
opinions. For example, When it comes to the Virgin Mary and
Rense, I am a stalwart supporter of both.

Now, I don't think Jeff will like the company I just thrust him
into. However my intentions are honorable if not ludicrously
impious.

Jeff is in the business of interviewing folks. Most of those
folks are in the news, if you will allow the liberty, the news
which we find ourselves into... goblins, reverse speech,
goulies, aliens, abductees, people who think the world is coming
to an end and even those who actually "know it." As such, one
must presume that Rense must provide a forum for their opinions.
This he does quite admirably, giving everyone an opportunity to
voice an opinion or three.

Where Jeff Rense makes a difference is in the manner in which he
conducts his interviews. The rest is a requirement of the
venue... one would assume... God I hate those words, "presume
and assume!"

So in defense of Rense (did you notice these rhyme? Could it be,
verily, that I have contracted a case of Lehmbergitis? Nah! I
aint that good.) Anyway, so in defense of Rense, it is in his
gentlemanly manner and not the stuff of his guest's appraisals
of God, the Universe and Everything, which make him the mensch
he is and further, bring so many to his defense.

In the case of Mary, the Mother of Jesus.... well, no comment.
Except that excess should be avoided at all costs, no matter
the matter...

Except of course... where _GRIPPLE_ is concerned....

Drink and make merry, for tomorrow we die of comet debris.
If you listen to _my_ reverse speech, you will find this...

I said, "Rense is not tense!"

In reverse, it goes, "Drink Gripple and dence!"

Dr. G speaks in a kind of ethnic South Manhattan Hebrew.
So "DENSE" actually means, "DANCE!"

Dr. Jaime Gesundt