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From: Larry Hatch <larryhat@jps.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:42:24 -0700
Fwd Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:11:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Noctilucent Clouds and UFOs


>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:09:30 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@YorkU.CA>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Noctilucent Clouds and UFOs

>Hi everyone.

>Dr. Michael DeRobertis is a York University professor of Physics
>and Astronomy and the editor of Ontario Skeptics Electronics
>News, a weekly publication which is sent out by e-mail to
>subscribers.  Below is an article in the latest issue which some
>UFO UpDates list members, and Dr. Kevin Randle in particular,
>would be interested in since it involves Noctilucent Clouds
>(Ambiguous Astronomical and Meteorological Stimuli) and the
>suggestion that these clouds may be identified as UFOs
>(Influence of Pre-existing Belief in UFOs).  In this case, I
>would think everyone could readily tell the difference between
>even rare very high altitude clouds and UFOs.  Witnesses to the
>famous case of a large UFO obscured in the clouds hovering above
>a landmark downtown Montreal hotel for a long time didn't
>confuse the two.

>Because of their great height, noctilucent clouds would seem to
>be stationary and would glow bright in the dark sky from the
>reflected light of the sun even well after sunset.  Has anyone
>who has seen such clouds have any doubts that they were seeing
>something other than just clouds?


Dear Nick:

I'm sure some wishful thinkers, and other "dim bulbs" have
confused such clouds for UFOs and other things.

My point ( and yours too I suppose ) is that a discriminating,
reasonably informed person blessed with normal intelligence and
eyesight, would be highly unlikely to do so.

I saw a picture of a perfect lenticular cloud once.    Others
less perfectly saucer shaped were in the background.    One
could imagine a classic saucer trying to disguise itself in a
mist.

Then,  in about 1986, I saw the real thing, right over the
height of the Colorado Rockies!

I watched it carefully, for several minutes. It was splendid ..
it was also just a goddam cloud.

Best wishes

- Larry Hatch

[ article snipped for brevity only  -LH ]