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Re: Doug & Dave?

From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:10:23 +0200 (MET DST)
Fwd Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:31:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Doug & Dave?


>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:03:06 +0100
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Sean Jones <tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Doug & Dave?

>>From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
>>Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:00:09 +0200 (MET DST)
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: Doug & Dave?

>>The statistics are different. Of all the crop circles that were
>>found in the summer of 1997 in the Netherlands, about 80 % was
>>unexplained.

>>Btw. 'crop circle' is by now a misnomer. The circles don't just
>>arise in crop and most of them aren't circles. 'Anomalous soil
>>pictograms' would be a better term IMO.

>Hi Henny


Hi Sean,

>Long time no speak, where have you been hiding?

I was out there... :)

>Anyway, 80%? I am amazed. Over here it seams that we have so
>many people hoaxing intricate patterns in cereal crops (IPICC,
>hmm still don't sound right) that it is _very_ hard to calculate
>a figure for this country. I know that there are several ways to
>detect _genuine_ advanced geometrical designs in the crop
>(AGDITC, hmm still don't look good) but it would seem that the
>hoaxers know this too and can fake these intricate pictograms in
>cereal crops (IPICC, back to this one again) and can use means
>to fool the researchers of these patterns in the crop (PITC, is
>this better?).


Trying to discriminate real anomalous pictograms from hoaxes by
comparing their structure seems to me not the right approach.
The researchers looked at certain specific physical properties
of the crop or cereal in which the pictograms were painted. Such
as electromagnetic orientation of the ears and the growth rates
of the crop or cereal as a function of the distance to the
center of the circle.

Btw. it strikes me that hardly any documentary about this
phenomenon that I have seen or heard about focuses on these
anomalous properties. Instead the focus has been on whether the
pictograms could be faked. Of course, given enough time any
pictogram can be faked. Therefore the structure of a pictogram
is hardly indicative of its genuineness.




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