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From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj@proaxis.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
Fwd Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Doug & Dave?


>From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:10:23 +0200 (MET DST)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Doug & Dave?

>Trying to discriminate real anomalous pictograms from hoaxes by
>comparing their structure seems to me not the right approach.
>The researchers looked at certain specific physical properties
>of the crop or cereal in which the pictograms were painted. Such
>as electromagnetic orientation of the ears and the growth rates
>of the crop or cereal as a function of the distance to the
>center of the circle.

>Btw. it strikes me that hardly any documentary about this
>phenomenon that I have seen or heard about focuses on these
>anomalous properties. Instead the focus has been on whether the
>pictograms could be faked. Of course, given enough time any
>pictogram can be faked. Therefore the structure of a pictogram
>is hardly indicative of its genuineness.

Hello Henny,

That's certainly right, the outline or shape of the agriglyph
isn't as important as the existence of braided stems and the
anomalous physical properties of the bent-over stems.

But regarding your statement that any pictogram can be faked
given enough time, the time involved needs to be less than that
of a summer night. Would you still stand by your statement under
that qualification?

I'm still waiting to hear back from Tony regarding how, if he
were to fake a certain crop circle, he would go about it, and
this is that two-layer crop circle of 1 Aug 1986 at Headbourne
Worthy, examined carefully by both Meaden and Andrews. How does
one proceed to first bend every other stem in a circle of 57'
diameter in a counterclockwise swirl, and then bend over the
other thousands of remaining standing stems in a swirl at right
angles to the direction of the lower swirl, two form a two-layer
system? It really does boggle the mind that any technology or
intelligence could do this, within a few hours time. I suspect
that this is the reason we have not seen anything like this
faked.

Jim Deardorff