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From: Sue Strickland <strick@H2Net.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:54:50 -0600
Fwd Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:26:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Arnold Saw Pelicans


>From: Tim D. Brigham <TBrigham@ksinc.net>
>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Arnold Saw Pelicans
>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:03:25 -0500

>>From: Sue Strickland <strick@H2Net.net>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: Arnold Saw Pelicans
>>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:13:33 -0600

Tim Brigham wrote:

><snip>

>...but also very true that people are just as likely to
>cling to a personal belief that something DOES exist, even in
>the face of evidence against it, especially if said belief is
>long held.

>Extreme belief in the _existence_ of something, is in many ways,
>quite simply, the same as belief that something does _not_ exist.

Hi Tim,

Oh, that that 2nd paragraph were always true, regardless of
reality borne of experience. If I wish hard enough that
everything that happened to me was real, then can I turn it into
fantasy? Can I prove it was all make believe? Show me how Tim.
Because, that is exactly why I'm on this list...to try to
understand where the lines between "personal belief," and
"personal proof" are drawn, for myself and others.

Most times I wait in the side lines, to listen and learn what
other people have experienced, or what their theories entail.
Hoping for a rational theory that will please explain what has
been going on for a very long time, to me, to thousands of
others.

I have looked for rational explanations wherein the evidence
presented would negate my "personal proof," my experience. When
I started on this list, I thought I was alone. I found there are
thousands of people all over the world who have had very similar
experiences. That didn't give me comfort. It didn't give me a
sense of security in numbers. Instead, it grates against
everything I wish were true...that I'm nuts!  A rational person
_wants_ to believe their experiences are hog wash, a huge bad
dream, or better yet, hallucinations.

Hoaxes continually permeate this field on both sides of the
fence because everyone wants to believe _none_ of this has
really happened. It's a true case of denial, in every single
person's mind, regardless of whether they are labeled "true
believers" or "debunkers." I really don't expect others to
accept my reality as theirs.  They can't! They we're there.

If you stand in a rain storm, you expect to get wet. You feel
the water dripping off your face and clothes. You are
uncomfortable, you want to change into dry clothes. You can
understand that feeling because "you've been there, done that."

If you put your hand (or leg, in my case) within an inch of an
errant laser beam, you expect to get burnt. You expect it to
hurt, a lot. It did. You scream, you cry from the pain. You
remember the pain. You expect it to blister. It did. You go to
the doctor to make sure it's going to heal ok, and expect to be
given some medicine to help it do so. I did go to a burn
specialist 2 days after it happened.  He sprayed the burns with
novocaine (brand new thing in 1961...spray novocaine), and stuck
a thin, wire-like 6" needle through those burns to see how deep
they went.  He turned sheet white. They went to the bone. The
doctor didn't believe me when I told him I'd burnt my leg on a
hot water bottle. I didn't expect him to after he had "his
proof." I also didn't expect him to believe "the truth." He
wasn't there.

I have conscious recall of how I got those burns...from an
errant laser beam attached to a transporter, in my bedroom in
1961 with many "visitors" present. Do I expect you to believe
that? No. You weren't there.

The doctor dressed the burns and gave me ointment for them. They
took several months to heal. You expect a scar. It's still
there. I see it every time I bathe.

I can tell you when I felt my first baby move in my womb, May
30, 1970. Do I expect you, Tim, to be able to recognize that
feeling? No, of course not. You aren't me. You weren't there.

But, after you've experienced those kinds of feelings, you don't
forget, ever. Although one memory is very painful and the other
pleasurable, it does not refute the reality of either feeling or
experience. They happened. Simple as that.

Now, what I have left is to either come up with a rational
explanation...or face it. I've had to face it. No one has come
up with evidence to prove what happened to me, _didn't_ happen.
I have the evidence...the memories of those experiences, and the
burn scar. I was there, unfortunately.   Hugs, Sue