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From: Brian Cuthbertson <brianc@fc.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:12:48 -0500 (CDT) Fwd Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:09:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2? Andy Roberts proclaims ... >Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:48:29 -0400 >From: Andy Roberts <Brigantia@compuserve.com> >Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2? >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net> >>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net> >>Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2? >>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:57:04 -0300 ><snip> >>We do the best we can. Every criminal court >>judge in non jury trials listens to prosecution and defense >>lawyers and witnesses and decides. Rarely is physical proof >>available. >Stanton's wiggly reasons to justify his belief (because that's >all it is) in extraterrestrials visiting Earth reach new levels. >Yes Stanton, criminal courts don't always have physical proof. >Well spotted. But there is one teensy flaw in your argument >here. Criminal courts are dealing with flesh and blood human >beings (dead or alive), whose physical existance is without >doubt. ET believers have no such physical proof. None, >whatsoever. Hence you analogy is useless. It doesn't matter what >you believe, what the statistics of belief show. All that >matters in the ET debate is hard, physical proof. And there >ain't any. If you're looking for an alien to log in and introduce himself here, you're on the wrong list. And if hard, incontrivertable physical proof existed, I guess we could shut down the list and go home. You want to be hand-fed, don't you? Life should be so comfy. On the other hand, if you're honestly looking for good evidence, there's plenty out there. Stan already mentioned a database of thousands of physical trace cases. If you need something on the web, how about Mark Cashman's online database of ElectroMagnetic Effect cases? I've appended his recent update announcement of it (to another UFO research list) below. Take a look, and if you can easily dismiss all of this information, or explain it all away, well then by all means do so for us here on the list. But don't expect the answers to be out there on a silver platter; the phenomenon just refuses to be that cooperative. -Brian Cuthbertson ----- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:59:10 -0400 From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@IX.NETCOM.COM> Subject: EM Effects Catalog Update To: PROJECT-1947@LISTSERV.AOL.COM More than 50 additional cases from the BUFORA Vehicle Interference Catalog have been added to the Project 1947 EM Effects Catalog (and the underlying queryable database at The Temporal Doorway from which that catalog is now derived). The catalog can be accessed at http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/catalog/emeffect/index.htm It now totals 940 entries. 64 of the 84 total pages of the BUFORA catalog are now part of this database, dated through 1973 (Cases in the catalog from all sources date through 1997). The queryable database can be accessed at http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/catalog/database/query.htm These CE-II cases represent a part of the reservoir of relatively unexplored cases, many published once or twice and never investigated in depth. Because of that, they are a potential source of work for those interested in digging into one of the most important categories of UFO report. ------ Mark Cashman, creator of The Temporal Doorway at http://www.temporaldoorway.com - Original digital art, writing, music and UFO research - UFO cases, analysis, classification systems, and more... http://www.temporaldoorway.com/ufo/index.htm ------
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