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From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:25:18 EDT
Fwd Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:13:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2?


 >From: Sue Strickland <strick@H2Net.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2?
 >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:07:55 -0600

 >>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:48:29 -0400
 >>From: Andy Roberts <Brigantia@compuserve.com>
 >>Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2?
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

 >Andy wrote (snip):

 >>...Criminal courts are dealing with flesh and blood human
 >>beings (dead or alive), whose physical existence is without
 >>doubt. ET believers have no such physical proof. None,
 >>whatsoever.

 >Wrong. Read again my July 4 and July 19 postings to UFO Updates.

 >(clip from July 19th)..."I have conscious recall of how I got
 >those burns...from an errant laser beam attached to a
 >transporter, in my bedroom in 1961 with many "visitors" present.
 >Do I expect you to believe that? No. You weren't there.

 >(clip from July 4th posting).."I can tell you, that in 1961,
 >there was no government experimenting on children in their
 >bedrooms with 3-dimensional laser-built transporters that could
 >move into the 4th dimension (through walls). We could barely get
 >into orbit as I recall. Is that enough "proof" for others? I
 >don't know. It certainly is for me. Pain is a great reality
 >check."

 >Your argument doesn't hold up with the thousands of people who
 >have experienced such incidents, and have the proof of the scars
 >to prove it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has conscious
 >recall of how they were used and abused.

 >Start looking for similar people, people.

 >Sue

Your name is Sue!  How do you do?

I am so sorry to be the first (or the hundredth) to tell you
this, Sue, but what is in your memory or mine, matters not one
dot to the person with the closed mind.  He or she will assign
some reason or other with which to demean the memory.

Undigested beef, hallucination (you were probably on extra
strength Excedrin or something) and blah, blah.

The real answer from any skeptic should be, "I don't know what
happened to you, however it is not in my paradigm to believe it
was anything but something "natural" and merely misconstrued."
Or whatever....

The real answer from any experiencer should be, "I don't know
what happened to me, but I can tell you exactly what my mind and
memory saw and what my body felt."  Someone is gonna hafta
convince me exactly what it was and _prove_ it before my mind
attaches to anything but what it was to me and for me.

It's the least we can expect.  But rather than even this caveat,
we get some very difference things, do we not?  They tell us
_exactly_ what it was we did NOT see.  In another post, I stated
that I would not wish this experience on anyone except my
brother in law, this experience.  I am begining to change my
mind.  I am now adding others to this list.

Jim