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From: Tony Spurrier <TSpurrier@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:01:35 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:55:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2?


 >From: Roy Hale <roy.hale@virgin.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: Sheffield UFO Incident 2?
 >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:43:43 +0100

 >I think Chris Martin would not be impressed with such an attack,
 >only once again this Sunday, we had the chance to observe some
 >very strange objects in the sky. {Again being filmed}

Which attack Roy? Have I stated that Chris has a lower standard
of evidence? No. You begin to bring in other people to back
yourself up. I merely mentioned a conversation that took place
at a meeting at this person's house yet your 'standard of
evidence' throws in an assumption that I disregard his claims
without any investigation. Seems you read what you want to read
and fit that in to your belief system. I suggest you read the
words and construct a sentence without prejudice in future.

 >There have been many people at the UFO Watch 2000 meetings, who
 >have come from all sides of the UFO debate and most have seen
 >things at those meetings, including yourself.

I have not been to one of these meetings so how can you comment?
This can only be another example of how you mould the data and
manipulate the facts to fit with your own belief system.

 >To start saying that this is a <a lower 'standard of  evidence'>
 >is quite incredible from a researcher who is also openly trying
 >to seek some kind of ET contact by whatever means, in fact I
 >would hope that those who attend such meetings would find the
 >remark highly offensive and was only said to cause trouble
 >nothing more.

As a researcher I am, with a group from Hertfordshire trying to
establish whether claims of ET contact via remote viewing are
credible. Is there a problem with research or should we just
believe?

Which meetings do you refer to Roy?

 >So maybe Tony has real high UFO evidence that he is willing to
 >show to the masses out there will we see it?

Where have I stated that we have 'high UFO evidence' I think you
have demonstrated to the list that you make of the data what you
will.

 >I am sure that myself, Chris , Marc, Dave, Neil, James,
 >Jonathan, Richard, and many more would like to see it?

You have made up a fictitious account of 'high UFO evidence'
only stressing my point that you manipulate what you hear into
facts. Is the'Neil' you mention the same who passed information
about one meeting where a conversation took place about me, if
so would you care to comment on the conversation?

 >Also check out the Leeds Quest International UFO Conference
 >where you will be able to see an exclusive piece of film, taken
 >by Chris Martin {UFO Watch 2000} it is quite remarkable.

I doubt any on this list dispute that UFOs exist, does the
footage contain evidence of a 'controlled ET craft'? I do
believe that's the discussion point in this thread. If you
believe the footage contains proof can you please explain to us
why you come to this conclusion?

Tony