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From: Josh Goldstein <clearlt@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:38:21 -0700
Fwd Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:44:16 -0400
Subject: An Educational Discourse


I have been away at a music festival and have now caught up with
the last week's posts. Quite a load of information to peruse and
digest.

I don't know why I pursued that mammoth task. I made the time
because for some strange reason I am as passionate about the UFO
subject as I was thirty years ago. I must be some kind of
addict. With the work of EBK and the passion of everyone who
takes part in UpDates this has become a vital forum to me.

I originally posted my feelings regarding Jeff Rense's inclusion of
anti-semitic material on his site. That led to an interesting thread
in which a great deal of information was shared.

I once again thank the people who posted background information
on the subject. I hope we all learned some things from this
exercise.

Since I was still mentioned in a post yesterday, I would like to
make a general statement regarding my past posts on this
subject.

In my original post I never condemned Jeff Rense or implied that
he should be suppressed in any manner. I was questioning his
standards of journalism as he seemed to post a number of
political and anti-New World Order articles that were rants that
did not contain any facts to support them.

I questioned his scholarship in doing so. He certainly has the
right to post whatever he wants. However, if he posts material
on the same level as William Cooper it certainly makes me wonder
how Jeff Rense thinks.

In my post I suggested that serious UFO researchers think twice
about appearing on his show as I hope all of us are trying to
keep Ufology above the tabloid level.

I never suggested suppressing his views.

In a previous post I also said, "It feels good to have others
think like I do". Mr. Lehmberg, that was a tongue in cheek
statement, that's all.

I also feel that the points in this exercise have been well
covered.

Since this is a UFO list, to save bandwith, perhaps if no new
points of pertinent interest are exposed, personal debates on
this subject can be handled by direct emails.

For now, let's keep our eyes on the sky and try not to trip over
our own feet. If you don't think it is a conspiracy, that just
shows how good a conspiracy it is.