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From: Jenny Randles <nufon@currantbun.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:49:48 +0100
Fwd Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:33:54 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Report By Ex-RAF Radar Personnel


>Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:22:32 +0100
>From: Dave Ledger <dledger@cableinet.co.uk>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: UFO Report By Ex-RAF Radar Personnel

>Strange UFO Captured On RAF Radar In North Of Scotland

>Date: Winter 1964-1965.
>Location: RAF Saxa Vord, Shetland Isles, Scotland.
>Source: Retired RAF personnel. Name witheld at Witnesses Request.
>Report and Witness Interview by: Dave Ledger

>Before I proceed to report on this significant case, I would
>personally like to thank the witness involved, for showing his
>willingness and courage in coming forward after 35 years to
>discuss and log this extraordinary case report with UFO
>Scotland. His willingness to discuss the sighting and the
>relevant details associated, is to be commended and we hope that
>it may set an example for other ex-servicemen to follow.

>REPORT:

>During the Month of May 1999, I was lucky enough to have the
>opportunity of speaking with (for the record) an ex RAF member
>who was once based at the Early Warning Radar tracking station
>at RAF Saxa Vord in the extreme North of Scotland. This meeting
>had been set up by my father who is also ex RAF (retired) and
>had happened to meet my source via social circles who in turn,
>agreed to speak with me so that I may document the event.


<snip>

Hi,

Thats a very interesting case. Of course, as a radar only
sighting it lacks a certain dimension. But that was true of a
very similar incident - the West Freugh, Scotland, affair of
April l957. From what little we know of that radars detected a
similar object that changed course and flew vertically to a
height beyond any recorded by aircraft of the day. As a result a
civil defence alert resulted.

When I was making my BBC TV documentary on the MoD UFO files in
l996 I interviewed Ralph Noyes, the head of the MoD division
that studied UFOs in the l960's. He worked for the Air Minister
at the time of West Freugh and the two l956 radar cases
(Lajenheath/Bentwaters and the Isle of Wight incident). Although
both the latter feature string visual sightings and multiple
radar trackings (see accounts in my l998 book 'Something in the
Air') Noyes told me that the West Freugh (non visual) case was
the biggest of all so far as depth of concern in Whitehall. I
asked why. I never really understood the answer save that the
height and actions of the UFO were such that they eliminated any
prospect of a known aircraft and thus posed a real threat to the
UK. This may well explain why the l964 Shetland episode was such
a big deal.

When Ralph pointed me in the right direction I found records at
the PRO in Kew which referred to all three l957/8 radar cases
(with no names mentioned). This was interesting because the MoD
were furious at the fact that the West Freugh case became public
knowledge (as a result of the civil defence alert) and they
clearly went to considerable lengths to ensure future radar
incidents were kept mum.

So far as I know nothing has been traced on MoD records about
the Shetland case, even though by the 30 year rule it should now
be. My suspicion is that after the West Freugh debacle such
cases were put in the hands of a department other than what is
now Air Staff 2A and Noyes more or less agreed asd much;
although Nick Pope - curiously - continues to say his team got
all the UFO stuff. Sorry, Nick, I dont buy that. You didnt get
to see the gun camera film taken during RAF interceptor pursuits
of radar trackings. Ralph told me he did see these - but he had
a civil service rank of Air Commodore as opposed to Nick's rank
of Captain. This probably gave Ralph access to the other
department data but Nick was restricted to Air Staff 2A -
records that in my view exist as a scapegoat to deflect the
public away from the existence of the real hot stuff like this
Shetland case. ]

Where they are is a good question - DSTI, DI 55 - perhaps? But
there are many of them. Over my 25 years I have gathered data
from witnesses on about 10 other UK radar cases like the one
here reported - not one of which features in any Air Staff
released file. They are still happening. I lectured to RAF
Shawbury a few years ago and had a long talk to the radar
officer there. He mentioned two then recent radar intercepts
(one over Birmingham and the other Nottingham) - then withdrew
when he saw a senior officer approach. I would not be amazed if
these things were happening every other week and they are, of
course, being siphoned off far away from Air Staff 2A.

Jenny Randles