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From: Asgeir W. Skavhaug <asge-s@online.no>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:42:04 +0200
Fwd Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:17:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold Sighting


>From: James Easton <pulsar@compuserve.com>
>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:44:13 -0400
>Fwd Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:23:10 -0400
>Subject: Re: Re: Kenneth Arnold Sighting

>Off the list, Bruce has helpfully clarified some details which
>have explained the full context of Arnold's letter to the AirForce.
>Confirmed is my contention that Arnold was in fact still
>searching for the missing C-46 marine transporter when his
>sighting occurred.It did not take place afterwards, when Arnold
>was en route toYakima.I'm sure we can now conclude the
>debatable points as much asthey ever can be.

>Bruce,

>In his report for the Air Force, Arnold wrote, in full:
>"I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward,
>searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and
>lew to the west down and near the ridge side of the canyon
>where Ashford, Washington, is located.
>Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I made a
>360 degree turn to the right and above the little city of
>Mineral, starting again toward Rainer. I climbed back up to an
>altitude of about 9,200 ft.

<snip>

>James.


James & List,

Much has been said and written about Arnold's sighting(s) during
the years.

In order to (try to) solve the mystery once and for all -
hopefully during this year (!!) - we can, for instance, also
take a look at what happend on the ground, that is, provide some
info. from the Web on the crash of the Curtiss C-45

http://www.airartnw.com/flyingthehump.htm
http://www.robins.af.mil/museum/aircraft/c-46.htm

marine transport plane, along with some  other interesting
Arnold

http://www.nwmyst.com/images/nwmyst-ufo-0022-2.jpg

stuff from the Web.

The following URLs are referred to in this respect:

http://www.nps.gov/mora/PressRel/PRplanecrash.htm , with the
following excerpts:

"The plane was transporting servicemen from San Diego to Sand
Point Naval Air Station in Seattle."

"Park Ranger Bill Butler spent many off-duty hours monitoring
snow levels and climbing conditions. As the snow started to
melt, he began looking for evidence of the plane crash.

On July 21, 1947, Bill spotted a gleam of metal on the South
Tahoma Glacier, but he could not reach the site from his
position on the Success Cleaver. After the discovery was
reported, a search party made up of rangers and mountain guide
Dee Molenaar was formed. On July 24, Bill Butler and his party
reached the plane tail section at the 8,500' level of the
glacier. No bodies were found.

A month later enough snow had melted to expose the nose section.
Bill and his party later reached the crash site near the
glacier's 10,000' level. The bulk of the broken plane was wedged
into a crevasse. Bodies of the Marines were found, most encased
by ice. Evacuation would have been extremely dangerous. It was
decided, with the concurrence of families of the victims, that
the Marines would be left buried in the glacier."

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9575/1946.htm

(There seems to be no info. on the marine plane here....)

http://www.geocities.com/~pjctsign/LagIV.htm

"I immediately changed my mind and decided that there was a
bunch of new jet planes in formation."

"They seem to kind of weave in and out right above the mountain
tops. And I would say, that they even went down into the canyons
in several instances…oh, probably a hundred feet."

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pauljones3/kenneth.htm

http://www.nwmyst.com/nwmyst-ufo-0022.html

"The objects had flown so fast, so strangely, but bore such
unforgettable aerodynamic details, that he kept trying to
convince himself that what he had seen was an advanced form of
jet (still in their infancy in 1947), or Russian guided
missiles."

"....the Cold War was being born; perhaps the objects were
foreign communist aerial invaders."

http://www.nwmyst.com/images/nwmyst-ufo-0022-3.jpg

This aircraft bears much resemblance to the Horten Ho 229, i.e.:
http://www.danford.net/horten.htm.

http://www.nwmyst.com/nwmyst-ufo-0023.html

http://www.nwmyst.com/images/nwmyst-ufo-0022-4.jpg

Some other questions which might be raised, are:


- The formation of craft were, according to Arnold, also close
to the ground. Were they searching for something? Maybe the
crashed C-46? Were they part of the Navy's search team? With new
technology to search for metallic materials on the ground?
(Alternatively, for others: The $5, 000 reward was no small sum
of money in those days.)

- Or, could the planes have paid some interest to the volcanoes,
and  to the volcanic activity in this area? (Check out:
http://www.nps.gov/mora/MORA_Photos/summit.jpg ) (Many UFOs are
seen close to volcanoes.)

- One of the planes were different from the others. Not much
attention has been paid to this

- Could the Americans have 9 of these planes in 1947? Or, maybe
the Russians were in possession of the blueprints/construction
drawings, and one of the Horten brothers? And, did they really
manage to fly these newly developed and constructed planes from
Soviet to America in July 1947?


The planes were aerodynamically unstable, and most likely
difficult to fly in formation - due to the missing tail. Today,
these types of planes, like the B-2s

http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/B_2_Spirit.html

are fitted with pressure sensors and the stability is controlled
by computers.

Because I cannot suggest any answers to these questions right
now, the readers of  the List must make up their own conclusions
about this, and maybe provide their results on the List.



Best regards,
Asgeir