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From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:11:14 EDT
Fwd Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:35:57 -0400
Subject: Re: RIPT & MJ-12
>From: Asgeir W. Skavhaug <asge-s@online.no>
>To: <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: RIPT & MJ-12
>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:51:41 +0200
>>From: James Easton <pulsar@compuserve.com>
>>Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:22:44 -0500
>>Fwd Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:37:37 -0500
>>Subject: Re: RPIT Roswell Revisitation: The Next Step?
>>Regarding...
>>>From: James Bond Johnson <JBONJO@aol.com>
>>>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:03:46 EST
>>>Subject: RPIT Roswell Revisitation: The Next Step?
>>James wrote:
>>>Further, RPIT has been able to read in part the official message held
>>>in the hand of General Ramey in the four shots taken of him which
>>>make reference to "victims of the crashed DISK being transported to
>>>Fort Worth" from "Site Two" near Magdalena, N. Mexico, and further
>>>appears to suggest or order the general to issue an announcement as
>>>to a "weather balloon" cover-up.
I might caution that there is no consensus as to what the ones
on that first line really are. The word victims has been
interpreted in various ways including a number who have
suggested the word is actually "remains. There is nothing close
to approaching consensus to suggest that there is anything about
"Site Two" near "Magdalena, N. Mexico." Others have suggested
the city name is Roswell rather than Magdalena.
>>James,
>>The 'Ramey telegram' may be indecipherable, however, as the
>>printing consists of fixed spacing, this offers important
clues >>to the probabilities.
<snip>
>or,
>>From: James Bond Johnson <JBONJO@aol.com> >>Date: Sun, 1 Nov
1998 19:56:51 EST >>Fwd Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:54:47 -0500
>>Subject: RPIT Roswell Revisitation Report No. 1
>>RPIT Roswell Revisitation Report No. 1
>>PRIMARY PURPOSE: The primary purpose of this RPIT Report No. 1
>>is to present the findings of RPIT (Roswell Photo
Interpretation >>Team) photo analysts after five-months of
intensive study of the >>Roswell "flying saucer" photos
<snip>
>James & James & List,
>Regarding the interpretation of the Ramey message, and for
>instance the letterhead/seal interpretations, I thought I would
>refer to the report to Congressman Steve Schiff having to do
>with the Roswell incident ("GAO report", from United States
>General Accounting Office), ' issued in 1995, and which I
>happend to come across on the Web:
>http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/maj12b.htm
>and specifically referring to to Appendix 2:
>http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/maj12b.htm#app2
If this is a teletype document, then there would be no
letterhead on it. Teletype paper came in long rolls. I have seen
the seal interpreted as an old style telephone or the liberty
bell or just a smudge.
>Note that the word "flying disc" (disc with a "c") is being
>used here. And, maybe Mr. R. Davis from NSA could help in
>providing some info. on letterheads, etc.?
>This report is probably known to many of the members of the
>List already, but for new members the report could have some
>interest.
>According to the Web site, a copy of the report may be obtained
>by calling (202) 512-6000 and referencing Document number
>GAO/NSIAD-95-187.
>Further, some months ago I watched a TV program on the
>Discovery channel, showing the interpretation work on the Dead
>Sea Scrolls. They were using a certain computer program to
>enhance the letters' readability on the scanned book pages, or
>the photos of these. That is, they were using a CAD program to
>enlarge the letters, and then fill in the letters and their
>fuzzy outlines with black. I don't know whether the RPIT
>members have been using this method in their work, but in any
>case, the results obtained from using this method will also
>depend on the use of subjective judgements in some way or
>other.
Here is the real important part of this posting. There are
subjective judgments being made. We are interpreting what we see
with a best guess regardless of the sophistication of the
equipment. We are interpreting the message in the context of the
assumption that it relates to the Roswell case. We have no
evidence that this is the case. All we KNOW is that Ramey, on
July 8, was holding this document in his hand.
KRandle, Ph.D.
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