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From: "Matthew Williams" <truthseekers@truthseekers.screaming.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:31:25 +0100
Fwd Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:51:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Max Burns Hoax Exposed


This from Max Burns related via phone at 18:30 21.6.99

In light of the protagonists coming forward to lead Max up a
garden path... The whole basis for the attached text was to try
to get Max to release this falsehood at the recent BUFORA
lecture. Unfortunately for the "hoaxers" we were quite aware
that this was possibly a hoax, but when investigating incidents
your not allowed luxury of seeing into the future and can only
investigate cases and folow leads up with sincerity.

Although I have been aware of the falsehood since the 20th
March, after taking council from people in Ufology that I trust,
the opinion was that you still have to follow leads.

The fact that I have not released any of the information that
they have supplied in their story/emails, either in my research
or my lecture, as far as I am concerned speaks volumes for my
diligence to verify any potential facts. It is quite sad that
some people will go to these lengths in an attempt to entice
someone to discredit their research fr their own personal gain.

Unfortuantely also for the purputators of this hoax, as I have
chosen not to go public with this information they were at a
loss, as the fruits of their deception had borne no results. So
they have now released this statement to score some points from
their deceptive work.

On a positive note: A good day was had out out on the moors by
all involved. Well aware that this could be a hoax the whole day
was planned more in line with a day out on the moors rather than
meeting the witness.

To note: Dr David Clarke recently discredited his own research,
the fact of the matter is that Dr Clark maintains that the cause
of the whole nights events was due to a covert low flying
excercise which involved six tornados launched from RAF Marham
that evening. This excerise culminated in a couple of pilots
accidentally breachoing the sound barrier whilst performing mid
air turns, which gave light to a number of misidentifications of
said aircraft culminating in a number of UFO reports as well as
a light aircraft etc etc et al.

The problem is that the (Sheffield) seismic events occured at
21.52 at 22.06 however from Dr Clarks own research PRO (Public
Relations Officer) Ed Bullpit that all six aircraft were safely
on the ground by 21.35 therefore how could the covert low flying
excerise possibly be the cause for events which happened 17
minutes and 31 minutes after the air group had landed
respectively. The covert low flying excerise could not possibly
be the explaintaion for the nights events. Unless Dr Clark can
explain how landed aircraft can be the cause of such events, if
that is your case Dr Clark, then you do not have a case. Please
explain how this discrepancy could occur.

Max Burns



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Now a note from Matthew Williams.

I think that the act of hoaxing for negative reasons is a bad
one. The reasons put forward by the "hoaxers" show their motives
are less than honorable. Indeed they feel the need to use
anonymous email addresses to hide behind because if their
identies were known they would be universally shunned by the UFO
community for their activities. However in my experience this
type of behaviour is typical of what I am terming "northern
ufology". This is not to damn all Northern Ufologists of who
there are many, but to highlight an ALARMING trend in certain
circles for this type of hoaxing and time wasting. Most of this
behaviour seems to be taking place "up north", and involves a
very well known band of not so merry people. Many readers out
there are probably aware of who these people are and their
motives and may have seen some of their other "hoax" works in
the past.

The point is that these so called Ufologists are let down by the
fact that Max chose to keep details of the Moors trip secret
until verifiable details had been gathered. It is obvious that
the hoaxers wanted to show that Max is someone who is easily led
by any piece of information and this is not the case! Given the
fact that the person who originally sent Max the emails told Max
to meet him on the moors under specific conditions, and that Max
is heavily involved in research on the Sheffield case, he could
hardly ignore the request to meet this person. As a warning
(which Max was well aware of) myself and other researchers
pointed out that this could well be a set up to waste Max's time
and money. Many of us have been "hoaxed" like this in the past,
so this is nothing new. Max discussed the possibility of the new
witness being a hoax with 10 or so people before attending the
moors.

However Max chose to take a chance on the person attending and
brought with him equipment to detect metal, radiation and record
events. This is the actions of a serious researcher, but the
"hoaxers" choose to make fun of this. This shows how shallow
they are.

I believe that this is a last ditch attempt by some to discredit
Max because after presenting an excelent lecture at BUFORA which
was both balanced and well illustrated, some people are worried
that Max may gain more favour.

Why is it that some people would then choose to attach a
researcher by all dirty methods possible. What is it that we are
not supposed to learn about the Sheffield case... what is it
that they would rather us not hear. These dirty tricks only draw
more light onto the case, and now Max is getting even more
publicity because of these peoples actions - so the hoaxers have
lost again!

I would like to draw peoples attentions to those who have openly
attacked Max in the most underhand of ways recently and make a
supposition that these are probably the same people who
purpurated this hoax. These same people left a number of clues
behind to their identity in this "hoax" statement which leads
straight to their door considering my private emails to them
direct - which were not copied to anyone else... very sloppy...
but I won't name names. I will leave it up to them to admit to
their childish acts. These same people probably also make hoax
calls to the police and fire service when their egos are feeling
a little low. Now you understand the mentality of the so called
"ufologists" we are dealing with here.

Well done children, time to grow up, thats all I can say.

Matthew Williams Truthseekers International.