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From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:51:08 -0400
Fwd Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:12:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Satanic Abuse


>Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:25:54 +0100
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: John Rimmer <magonia@magonia.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Satanic Abuse

>>At least something like that, for God's sake. Not just bland
>>general allegations. Another way to put this, John, is that I'm
>>asking how large your sample is, when you say "remember that
>>[abduction] claims can wreck people's lives." How many
>>abductees, even approximately, do you imagine you know anything
>>about, and what percentage of them ruined their lives?

>>If you can't answer a question like that, you're just gossiping.

>>Greg Sandow

>And this from someone who admitted just a few months ago that
>abduction researchers don't even have statistics on what
>proportion of their subjects are Black, White or Hispanic.

Exactly. I stated this very plainly, without first having to be
challenged. (Though only concerning Budd Hopkins; I don't know
about other researchers).

I think I named it as a problem, but if I didn't, I've done so
in the past about other missing abduction statistics, such as
the percentage of abductees who have the allegedly unexplainable
marks Budd so often talks about.

Give it up, John. You're not making sense. This isn't a
discussion about who's less scientific, abduction researchers or
skeptics. I've always said abduction research has problems. It's
a discussion about whether you, John Rimmer -- when you say
abduction claims have ruined lives -- know what you're talking
about.

Greg Sandow