From: Royce J. Myers III <rjm3@sprintmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:57:39 -0800 Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:51:41 -0500 Subject: Bell - Facts vs. Fraud and Confusion >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:36:11 -0700 >From: Ron Bach <roam5@utinet.com> >To: updates@globalserve.net <And Others> >Subject: Re: Bell is no Rense >Jeff Rense also provided me with a venue to challenge Richard >Hoagland alongside Steven Greer and Greer camp has since >answered the questions and treated me very kindly and decently. >I doubt that had my article not been posted on Jeff Rense's site, >Greer camp may not have seen the necessity to answer and >clarify. They did; and very convincingly. So please leave Jeff >Rense or any other Journalists, Reporters out of this squabble. Let me first say how _sincerely_ sorry I am to hear that Richard has suffered a heart attack. My father has had three serious heart attacks, I know what Richard's family and friends are all going through. I sincerely wish Richard nothing but the best for a full and speedy recovery from this unfortunate happening. Bell, Your comments about Rense and his show somehow having a direct relationship to Richard's current health problems is total crap. Rense has left an open invitation to Richard Hoagland (and others) several times to appear on his program and answer claims made against him. Yet few who appear on your program have taken Rense up on his invitation. Why? Because they know Rense will ask the real hard questions and won't just let them present any ramblings to the public...Rense doesn't allow a free-for-all format. His program presents both sides. You can't say the same. Remember Chuck Schrameck? You had him on the air crying wolf even after Linda Howe gave you the straight facts. You were _extremely_ rude to Linda on your Dreamland program when she presented evidence showing Schrameck's data was grossly incorrect. You brushed her off and brought Schrameck back on the air, dramatically announcing, "Now the other side of the story!" You might as well have told Linda to get lost the way you treated her. Why Linda wastes her time and talent on your program is beyond me. How about this: You criticize Rense on your program (of course not having the balls to refer to him by name) as not being a responsible broadcaster...I have two words for you: Hale-Bopp. Oh, and let's not forget your melodramatic resignation which you seemed to mention at every opportunity you had when you returned to the air waves. That really seems out of character for a man who said he didn't want to subject his family to anything negative and was in some kind of terrible danger. If I'm wrong about this, you can always tell us what happened.:) Regarding proven frauds, you said that no responsible broadcaster "would continue to give space or air time to this kind of dribble." Yet you constantly continue to showcase a parade of frauds on your show. Isn't Robert Ghostwolf posing as a Native American? And how about Dr. Jonathan Reed? You had this fraud on your program and later received plenty of evidence that his story was bogus. But instead of presenting that evidence you chose to have Reed and his dirtbag partner Raith back on the program twice. You insulted the people who sent you the evidence (myself sending it to you twice at _your_ request after I contacted you) by calling them "pixel counters". You even questioned the credentials of one person who contacted you regarding the inconsistencies in Reed's photos. Too bad you can't be critical of your guests. Of course, you claim it's all "just entertainment." You went on to endorse this fraud by exclaiming that the bogus photos you received were printed on real Kodak paper. Never mind the fact that I informed you via e-mail _and_ fax that there are digital imaging systems that print digital photos on actual Kodak paper. I can't speak for this person, but you even let Reed associate Peter Davenport's good name with that shameless scam. And let's not forget when the $1,000,000 UFO/EBE Challenge was made to Reed. You apparently didn't like that and sent one of your puppets to cloud up the issue by claiming you were owed the million dollars for the scraps of metal you have. Why you didn't come and make that claim yourself is still a mystery. The criticism of Hoagland does indeed seem justified. Hoagland not responding to the charges doesn't make him look any better. You said the "personal attacks" against Hoagland were being perpetrated for "some mysterious reason by another website and radio program, a reason that I simply cannot discern." It really isn't that mysterious and if you had actually taken the time to see what was being said you'd be aware that people are charging Hoagland with plagiarism, an _extremely_ serious charge among researchers in any circle. It isn't a flake like Robert A.M. Stephens rambling. Ralph Greenberg (professor of Mathematics, Seattle, WA.) says he faxed you on several occasions regarding Hoagland's claim that he wrote the first scientific paper regarding water on Europa. Then there are the charges of Hoagland using photos from Egypt that don't even belong to him. Good grief, Hoagland has stuck a (C) copyright on a page with the Egypt pictures and is using images from Star Wars. Not once does the site give any reference or copyright credit to anyone but the Enterprise Mission and Richard Hoagland. I'm sure LucasFilm would not be too happy with that fact. You seem to like ignoring information when it doesn't suit you. At least Rense had the courtesy and standards to present the findings of others on his program, which were _totally_ ignored by you. You seem to ignore people that challenge you or your guests in any way. I've said this more than once: Don't cut yourself and then point a bloody finger at someone else. Regards, Royce J. Myers III
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