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From: Tim Matthews <matthews@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:37:53 -0000 Fwd Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 20:54:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Charges against Max Burns Dropped Dear All, I think that Roy is making a mistake here but then Max writes for his magazine and so perhaps this is the reason for his support. BUFORA is now a pathetic joke and in light of their new policy on free speech I submit a list of speakers for future events - they're bound to draw the crowds in; John Tyndall - BNP leader. Louis Farrakhan - Nation of Islam Friends Of Ted Bundy. Don Worley Roger the footdoctor Leir Linda MJ-12 Howe Cartman from South Park.. See, guaranteed to enlighten the thirty or so diehards who attend the BUFORA London lectures. BTW, I checked out the cost of hiring the hall in London and it emerged that even with discount it was =A3150 a go. No wonder BUFORA has less money than in the past. My Society gets more people than this for regular monthly meetings! I know for sure that Max has sent hate mail to myself and others under the pathetic email pseudonym "Terminator2001@hotmail.com" and that he has made threats against other researchers. I remember well the time I met him in Sheffield - ironically during a BUFORA Conference in August 1997 - where he stated in front of several people that he had bribed the witnesses to the supposed "Sheffield Incident" with drugs, that he knew members of 'the local Mafia' (a claim that I am tempted to re-examine in light of recent events), that 'Intelligence Officers visit me for tea' and other such pathetic drivel. What's more he was rude, offensive and made sexist comments to my wife Lynda - which she hasn't forgotten - and this kind of thing makes a mockery of a situation where supposed 'free speech' is being offered to a "man" who would almost certainly destroy it for others - at least in terms of the Ufological debate. Only this week he has accused me of working for the Office of Naval Intelligence (!) and last month was claiming that I was using various aliases and leading a secret triple life and working for UK Intelligence! I wish! What is more shocking about this whole affair is the way in which certain people in BUFORA have been completely taken in by Burns' bleating. I think this is a terrible shame and not a particularly good advert for their ability to weigh people up. Even more ironic is the fact that he might not ever get to London to give the lecture because he might be behind bars.....! We do not need these kind of people in Ufology - it already attracts more than it's fair share of disturbed individuals and now we appear to be encouraging them. I'm sure I'm not the only one secretly hoping that BUFORA would get its' act together over time. Unfortunately it was the biggest grouping and had the furthest to fall and I suspect that the need for such a bureaucratic organisation is long gone. Effective local and National networking between and amongst the few objective researchers is all that is required for progress to be made. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here and this just seems to be yet another cock-up in a several-year history of cock-ups as far as BUFORA is concerned....... The bottom line is that Burn's research is so poor as to be utterly worthless. He can provide no evidence to support his claims and I agree with PB that (and coming from an RAF family) I cannot think of any ethnic minority pilots....more's the pity. Max has almost managed to ruin John Dagenhart's RAF career and thinks nothing of continuing to misrepresent this man's statement. Burns' nonsense would indeed go down well at a MUFON symposium and perhaps the malaise that has affected MUFON has, like all the worst things, been transported over here by some means. If BUFORA is about encouraging the highest standards of research - and not just acting as a self-appointed platform for allcomers - then Burns has no place within a thousand miles of the stage in West London..... Tim X
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