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From: Dave Ledger <dledger@cableinet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:05:13 +0100
Fwd Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 22:21:42 -0400
Subject: Sighting Dundee, Scotland


Subject: INCOMING FORM
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 01:05:37 -0700
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.freeserve.co.uk
To: dledger@cableinet.co.uk


Name : XXXXXXXXXX
date: 27th and 28th January 1999
location: Dundee
time: 18:20hrs GMT (27th) and 08:40hrs GMT (28th)
AM: on
PM: on
My_Sighting_Submission:

Dear Sirs,

I have been asked to forward this UFO sighting report to you by
someone who knows of my interest in the subject, but who wishes,
at present, to remain anonymous. I have typed up this report
from hand-written notes that the person has given to me. The
reason he wishes anonymity stems mostly from the fact that when
it was reported locally,(to a local newspaper and our local
observatory) it was dismissed as a "star or maybe Venus" that
was seen, and this has caused some concern that only more
ridicule will result from further reporting of the sighting.

The person in question is an A.D.I.approved driving
instructor,and the incident has had a great effect on him. From
listening to his verbal account of this sighting it is apparent
that he would like to pass on this information to someone who
will take it seriously. With this in mind, I believe that should
someone wish to investigate this further, I think he would be
more than willing to discuss it more fully provided that any
contact was made via myself in the first instance. He does not
even want his family to know he has made this report as they are
so fearful of ridicule.

To perhaps assist with the 'geography' of the place names given
in the report, a few distances/directions might help.  The
Fairmuir Park mentioned is about 2 miles north of the Tay and
the Thomson Street mentioned later is about half a mile north of
the Tay. Dundee's small airport's traffic consists mostly of
small private aircraft which are very familiar to locals. Also,
a few miles away in Fife, is the R.A.F. base at Leuchars, so
that military aircraft are also a common sight crossing Dundee.
This fact makes the observers reaction to being unable to
identify what he saw all the more strange.

Best regards,

Mr XXXXXXXXXX

E-Mail:- XXXXXXXXXXXX.freeserve.co.uk

--------------- (report follows)-----------------------

The Report

"Dear Sirs,

On Wednesday evening, 27th January 1999,during a driving lesson
with a 17 year old pupil, at approx. 6:20pm, I saw a black
diamond shaped UFO flying through the sky. It had no flashing
lights which you would see on any normal aircraft. The driving
lesson continued when approx. 20 - 25 minutes later we stopped
to do a Reverse Exercise at a local park known as Fairmuir Park.
I looked up in the sky to see if I could still see the UFO I had
seen earlier on. It was hovering high in the sky glowing like a
star. I recognised it as the UFO I had seen earlier because of
the shape. I got out of my car to look at it and after about 1
minute it rotated anti-clockwise and directly underneath there
was an orange coloured beam which came down from the UFO and
went back up again. At this point I shouted to my pupil to come
out of the car.

I could not see any lights nor could I here any sound. We were
both standing in the park trying to find out what we were
looking at. We had never seen anything like it. About 2 - 3
minutes later it started moving off. We jumped into the car and
followed it for approx.10 minutes. It was glowing a brilliant
white/very light yellowish colour.

It was almost round in shape but a little oval in the centre
now. We could not believe what we were looking at, it was
definitely not from this world it was extra-terrestrial. We

watched it travelling through the sky  getting smaller and
smaller as it got further away. At this time it was bright white
just like a star. I watched it till it disappeared over the
River Tay and into the hills of Fife. The time was now approx
7pm.

I found out on the Friday (29th January), that without knowledge
of my sighting, that on the next day, Thursday 28th January, at
approx. 8:40am, a relative of mine with her 2 daughters were
travelling down Thomson Street, which overlooks the River Tay
and one of her children said there was a shooting star over the
Tay. It was hovering over the water with two yellow beams coming
from underneath. Then it started to rise vertically into the
sky. They lost sight of it because of a building obstructing
their view. They described it as shining like a star, very
bright white/ yellowish colour. After they could see the Tay
again the object had completely vanished. They had obviously
seen the same UFO as me.The two girls (13 yrs. and 9 yrs.) &
their mother all saw this as well as me and my pupil the night
before."

--------(report end)-----------------------------------

P.S.

There are, unfortunately, no photographs of this
sighting, but there are some rough drawings available.

I reported this sighting to a UFO magazine several weeks ago,
but they have not acknowledged it to date. This has made the
person even more anxious that nobody is taking it seriously.

With this in mind, I hope that even if no follow up is required
with this incident,you will be able to at least e-mail me with
some sort of 'note' that I can pass on to the person concerned.
I'm sure that even this would go some way to easing his anxiety.

Many thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you.



Subject: Drawings to go with Web Report
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:05:31 +0100
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <dledger@cableinet.co.uk>


Ref. The Dundee sighting of 27th/28th January.

As I mentioned in the report I have just submitted to you, I
have scanned the rough sketches which were given to me, and they
are hereby attached. I hope they are of some help.




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