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From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:18:03 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:22:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Book Burnings & Conspiracies


>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: * Jeff Rense Weekly E-News *
>Date: Sat, 15 May 99 09:19:10 PDT

>>Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:13:18 -0500
>>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: * Jeff Rense Weekly E-News *

>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>>>Subject: Re: * Jeff Rense Weekly E-News *
>>>Date: Thu, 13 May 99 08:18:15 PDT

>I did not read anything in Jeff Rense's post suggesting that he
>favors book-burning. That's simply unfair, and I think you owe
>him an apology.

Clever dodge sir -- when it was _your_ attitude that I took
exception to.

>>>I'm glad to read that you are planning to expose the Protocols
>>>as the forgery it has long been known to be.  Good for you. I
>>>am, however, disheartened to see how much your website caters to
>>>conspiracy theories no less bone-headed or, arguably, dangerous.
>>>My experience is that if you scratch a conspiracy theorist, a
>>>bigot bleeds.

>>Your argument, sir, seems to suggest that there is _no_
>>conspiracy.

>Precisely.

Then I suggest your delusion is your own, sir, contributory to our
ufological malaise, and unfortunate.

>>I happen to think that there is abundant evidence
>>for an institutional _pervasiveness _ of conspiracy -- a
>>metaphoric _iceberg_ of convenient conspiracy with only the the
>>tips of a watergate, Iran-contra, or savings and loan debacle
>>sticking sullenly above the oily surface like dirty sea ice.

>A wholly unnecessary explanation, unless you believe that
>wrongdoing is by definition evidence of conspiracy, presumably
>orchestrated by Satan himself.  Since none of us is without sin,
>I suppose, then, we are all agents of the conspiracy.

A quick rush to the absurd, sir. I remind you that this universe
is big enough to contain even an unlikely Satan. That the
explanation is proclaimed unnessary by you is no evidence of a
lack of conspiracy. Perhaps your are too quick to defer to
'experts'.

>>resent your indicating I _may_ be a bigot because I am
>>assaulted, and _insulted_ by the obvious.  Any rational run
>>through the history of western civilization points up abundant
>>conspiracy, evidence of conspiracy, and suggestions of
>>conspiracy. Scratch YOU, sir, to see how _bloodless_ you've
>>become?

>I'm afraid there's no blood in this turnip.

That's OK, sir -- I have enough for both of us. <g>.

>As documented in
>insightful studies of conspiracy theory by the likes of George
>Johnson, Daniel Pipes, Richard Hofstadter, and others,
>conspiracy theory and ethnic/racial bigotry historically are so
>entwined as to be indistinguishable.

Perhaps, but appeals to authority, or expecting a jump on a band
wagon of bookburning in deference to 'experts' does not address
the take I have on our shared interest. As an _individual_ not
overly impressed by title, or reputation, and able to "think and
wait" in my own right -- I take issue with your haughty
dismissal to defer to the traditions of others, and insist that
I make up my own mind.

>If you say you are not a
>bigot, I am happy to take your word for it.

Thank you for that, sir.

>On the other hand,
>your innocence in this regard tells me only that you are one
>very naive conspiracy theorist.

Your patronizing tone, sir, is plain. It is unjustified. It is
inaccurate. It is itself bigoted in assertion, assumption, and
attitude. Like evolution, sir, conspiracy is a _fact_. The
"theory" is how either of those things works themselves out. I
suggest you reassess your _own_ frail innocence.


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