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From: Joachim Koch <AchimKoch@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:28:57 -0400
Fwd Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:34:55 -0400
Subject: MILABS


Hello Bruce, Hello List!

I would like to forward this to you, it is just another
piece of the debate.

Sincerely

Joachim

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What the Tuskegee victims would say!

		=09
by Helmut Lammer Ph.D.

		=09
Everybody who followed the continuing debate about my research
in alleged military  involvement  in alien abduction phenomena -
so called MILAB cases,will know  now  which people try to
ridicule this research, our book MILABS!which will be available
in the USA this week [1] and of course me.[2,3,4] I will not
answer all articles in the future which  attack  my research or
my person since I believe it is more important if I use my time
for things which are more meaningfull than answering such
statements.

Interestingly, the sceptics claim now that their responses
addresses only "my" MILAB cases. This is important to know,
since I do not "own" MILAB abductees and some of these people
were also investigated by other researchers like Budd Hopkins,
or researchers related to the MUFON Abduction Transcription
Project, etc. It is not my problem if the well known abduction
researchers have ignored such cases in their research articles
and books. Second there are more MILAB abductees, which were
investigated by professional therapists and psychiatrists than
the few which are known via the internet. Therefore, this
statement is a complete nonsense.

Another interesting aspect in their criticism is that they try
to convince their readers that my research concentrates only on
tracking devices and implants, that I claim that all MILAB
abductees are implanted with tracking devices, etc. This is
certainly not the case. It is right that there are "some" but
not "all" MILAB cases where there is evidence that the abductees
were implanted with a terrestrial device. It is well known from
zoology and medical research hat such devices are around for a
long time.[5] Recently there were many newspaper articles in
Europe about an implant with satellite tracking applications
which was developed by the israeli intelligence agency Mossad.
This implant is now distributed via a private firm in Italy.
Since the sceptics read the MUFON UFO Journal, they should know
about this, because there was a short notice about this implant
in the November 1998 issue. It is common knowledge that this now
comercially available implant will not be the latest state of
the art "military" or "black project" technology.=09

I agree with the sceptics that older implants would be easy to
detect on x-rays and MRIs, because they are relatively large.
This is the case, since I know cases of people who have x-rays,
MRIs, medical statements from independent doctors, etc. where
everybody can see that they were implanted with such devices,
but nobody removes their implants![6,7]

Very interesting is the claim by the sceptics that the proposed
MILAB projects fail a simple test in comon sense, since there is
just no reason to conduct them and the alleged victims are not
extremely intelligent, no Noble laurate is involved, etc.[4]

It is known from declassified CIA-MKULTRA subproject No. 94
documents, that the CIA experimented with miniaturized electrode
implants 30 years ago! The purpose of subproject No. 94 was:[8]

"1. The purpose of this subproject is to provide a continuation
of activities in selected species of animals. Miniaturized
stimulating electrode implants in specific brain center areas
will be utilized.

2. Initial biological work on techniques and brain locations
essential to providing conditioning and control of activities in
several species of animals has been demonstrated...The ultimate
objective of this research is to provide an understanding of the
mechanisms involved in the directional control of animals and to
provide practical systems suitable for (censored)application."

So much for the long interest in implant research for mind- and
behaviour control purposes. Since there is also evidence in the
form of a declassified research proposal of MKULTRA subproject
No. 94 [9] that selected elements of the techniques developed
under this project were applicable to humans, one can speculate
if some of the before mentioned cases were used in such an
experiment. If one reviews the known MKULTRA subprojects from
documents which were released via the FOIA one will find many
projects where outsiders would claim that there is no reason for
doing this, although some people decided that there was one.[10]   =09

Further, they claim that a reason for the former unwise
government experiments like the cold war radiation experiments,
MKULTRA, Tuskegee, etc. could be made (of course not for
MILABs), although Alexander wrote that he does not make excuses
or apologies for these experiments. "In Tuskegee" doctors wanted
to determine how Syphilis would progress if left untreated."[4]
I will not coment such statements about the former illegal
unethical cold war experiments, because I believe they speak for
themselves.

In the so-called Tuskegee experiments hundreds of Afro-Americans
were subjected to sexually transmitted diseases through
purposeful withholding of appropriate medication that could have
cured their disease but was not administered in order to
continue to collect information on the disease=B4s degenerative
impacts. Beginning in 1932, the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated
Syphilis in the Negro Male" subjected 412 Afro-American
sharecroppers who had contracted syphilis to 40 years of
monitoring aimed at documenting the effects of the disease. All
the victims were permitted to pass the various chronic stages of
illness, suffering from long-term disabilities such as
blindness, paralysis, dementia and eventually premature death,
even well after penicilin was found to be a highly effective
treatment.[11]

So much for Tuskegee and I would be interested to know what the
Tuskegee survivors have to say after they know now that some
designers from an ueber-secret agency conducted a risk-benefit
analysis and chose to proceed in this experiment.

Interestingly, there were only black americans involved in this
experiment and there were no Nobel laureate or persons of
publicly acclaimed accomplishments used in this
nazi-style-project. The reason is that they used people who were
socially and politically outsiders. Tuskegee is a very good
example, where one can see why it is better to use the average
nobody, ethical minorities, or poor people for covert or secret
unethical experiments,than lawyers, academics and Nobel
laureate=B4s, etc. 

I agree that some of the people who claim that they hear voices,
are used in secret experiments, are abducted by aliens, etc. are
paranoid, have delusions, are mentaly ill, etc. But there are
also some people who are not! Therefore, it would be locical to
use natural phenomena, strange psychological phenomena,
unexplained and generally ridiculed phenomena as a cover for top
secret experiments.

How easy such a cover would work everybody can see from the the
present discussion and the statements of the sceptics. They
claim that these people are crazy, have hallucinations, etc. but
other abductees (abductees who have only alien and not military
experiences) not, only Lammer=B4s MILAB cases, etc. If this is
really going on than the sceptics are right: "That is human, not
alien interventions."[4] An alien cover would be so good that if
alleged victims go to the police as the sceptics suggest and
tell them that people in military uniforms experimented on them
and the police officer learns that the person has also alien
abduction experiences he/she will be immediately ridiculed, etc.

On the other hand there are also MILAB cases which point in
another direction. These are cases where it seems to me that the
military involved, or their officers believe that "some alien
abductions" may be a true unexplained phenomenon. These are
cases where it does not seem that they use the abduction
phenomenon as a cover for secret experiments but they would like
to know whats really going on in some alien abduction cases. On
the other hand it could be that these military unit are involved
in pseudo-alien abductions for propagating an alien threat. Of
course this is speculation and more data are needed.

Although the MILAB sceptics, claim that one can see from my
research that I have a lack in understanding of technical
knowledge, the ability to completely analyze information,
political science, military science, budget and finance,
organizational sociology and psychology/psychiatry, I can only
say I trust the NASA cameras and my scientific knowledge more
than the stories of the former military remote viewers who are
good friends and former colleagues of our sceptics and who
claimed on public meetings, in magazines, etc. that they remote
viewed Martians, artificial structures on the Martian surface,
machines under the surface of Mars, the disappearence of the
russian Phobos 2 probe and other nonsense.[12]

However, I exposed some of this nonsense in the peer reviewed
border science Journal, "Journal of Scientific Exploration."[13]
Why were the MILAB sceptics quiet as their friends, former
colleagues, etc. delievered mental food for their estimated 10
million people who suffer from paranoid delusions, not-real
entities, voices, bedroom-related visions and hypnagogic
experiences? 

For the fields of knowledge where I have no immediate training
myself eg. psychiatry, military science, etc. I make a habit out
of consulting with experienced professionals with many years of
experience in these fields. So the opinions I present in my
books and articles may have more weight than these sceptics want
to believe.


     References: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 	   

     [1] Lammer, Helmut, and Lammer, Marion: MILABS!:         
Military Mind Control and Alien Abduction, Illuminetpress,
http://www. illuminetpress.com, USA, 1999. 	    [2] Alexander,
Victoria: MILAB, MUFON UFO Journal, February 1997. [3]
Alexander, Victoria: What Freud would say, CAUS, online
newsletter, March 1999. [4] Alexander, John: John Alexander on
MILABs, http:// www.konformist.com, April 1999. [5] Savages,
Science and citations of Brain-Computer Technology: A
compilation of 25 scientific papers concerning research in
brain-computer interface, and bio-medical microelectronic
implants, Gruppen P.O. Box 136, 114 79 Stockholm, Sweden. [6]
Naeslund, Robert: Branded by the Security Police, Gruppen P.O.
Box 136, 114 79 Stockholm, Sweden. [7] Jones, Janine: Implant
victim seeks help, 1/66 Robinson Avenue, Holdens Bay, Rotorua,
NewZealand.          [8] Memorandum for the record: Subject:
Project MKULTRA, Subproject No. 94, 22. November, 1961;
declassified FOIA released document concerning brain telemetry
stdies on animals. [9] Research Proposal for MKULTRA, Subproject
No. 94, declassified FOIA released document. [10] Memorandum for
the Director of Central Intelligence: Subject: Report of
Inspection of MKULTRA, 26. July, 1963; declassified FOIA
released documents. [11] Sklar, Morton: Torture in the United
States, World Organisation Against Torture USA, Suite 400,1015
18th Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20036, E-mail:
msklar@igc.apc.org, 1998. [12] Stubblebine, Albert, N. III (ret.
Major-General, INSCOM): Remote viewing and the psychic
intelligence agents, Talk at the International Symposium on UFO
Research, May, 1992; also in: Nexus magazine, August-September,
1994. Major Ed Dames and other former military remote viewer
claimed at various books, conferences etc. that they remote
viewed Martians, artifical stuctures, the disappearance of the
Phobos 2 space craft and other scientifically nonsense.  [13]
Lammer, Helmut: Atmospheric mass loss on Mars and the
consequences for the Cydonian hypothesis and martian life forms,
Journal of Scientific Exploration, 10:3, 1996.   

         
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