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From: Bill Weber <koran@cchat.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:31:14 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 10:54:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos


 >Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:02:49 -0500
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
 >Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos

 >>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:24:19 -0400
 >>From: Kenny Young <ufo@fuse.net>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos

 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos
 >>>Date: Fri, 01 Oct 99 18:44:18 PDT

 >>>You conveniently failed to mention, as I pointed out to
 >>>you last time around (and as Brian Straight has also
 >>pointed out to you), that I was responding to vile
 >>accusations against my character -- accusations, moreover,
 >>that were hurled without a shred of supporting evidence.

 >>Mr. Jerome Clark;

 >>I am most curious to learn what specific and exacting comments
 >>that were hurled against you which you might consider 'vile
 >>accusations against your character.' Might it be possible for
 >>you to please clarify your statement with an issue-related
 >>example?

 ><snip>

 >>Kenny Young

 >Dear Gentlle Listfolk,

 >For whatever reason(s), Jerry Clark seems to have become a
 >lightning rod for personal criticism on this list. I've been
 >trying to figure out why this is so, and here are a couple of
 >tentative thoughts (as opposed to ultimate solutions) on the
 >matter.

Hi,

Here are some other thoughts as well. Ufology's legitimacy
doesn't hinge on Jerry Clark's complete agreement with
Maccabee's protocol for saucer picture analysis. (I thought that
since photos could be hoaxed, photographer credibility is a
factor in photo analysis as well. That is an issue on which
reasonable minds may differ. Yes? No?)

Clark has produced what in any other area would be standard
issue texts, and edits the best scholarly review on the subject
I know of. He has steadfastly refused to support the paranoid
wing of Ufology and he hasn't hesitated in pointing out the
unique stupidity and hypocrisy of pelicanists and psychosocial
skeptism. All in all, it makes him an easy target for the ego
challenged and both sides of a particularly wacky Ufological
isle. Not only that, Jerry Clark is supremely communicative and
approachable (if you don't begin an introductory letter with a
string of insults), and with all due respect for people like
David Jacobs and Budd Hopkins, both of whom seem like admirable
people, I don't see either of them on an open list taking any
hits for their work. Clark, on the other hand, makes himself
accessible.

Brian Straight nailed it when he called Clark "the voice of
reason" in this most recent fracas. I'd hate to think Clark is a
lightening rod for personal attacks simply because he _is_
reasonable, rational and accessible, but I'm beginning to think
it's true.

Best,

Bill