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From: Joe Murgia <Ufojoe1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Fwd Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:49:46 -0400 Subject: Re: TMP News: Weekly Briefing 4.12.00 >>>Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:12:25 -0500 >>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net> >>>Subject: Re: TMP News: Weekly Briefing 4.12.00 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca> >>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:39:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) >>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca> >>Subject: Re: TMP News: Weekly Briefing 4.12.00 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:58:31 -0700 >From: Paul Anderson <psa@direct.ca> >Subject: TMP News: Weekly Briefing 4.12.00 >To: psa@direct.ca >Nick, >whether incidental or intentional, is that many, many people are >apparently being made sick (and some dying) in the process. Is >the military (once again) playing god? It would appear so. Nick Wrote: >>Since the aircraft which allegedly produce these chemtrails have >>to land at some airport somewhere, military or public, and must >>be loaded with the nasty chemicals or biological agents thought >>to be released in the air over our heads, I have found no >>evidence that this is actual taking place here. I was told by a >>friend at a miltary base that this activity would be very >>unlikely since someone would have suspected something wrong a >>long time ago and notified the appropriate authorities or even >>the press. >>But you don't understand. The press is part of the conspiracy! >>So are the "appropriate authorities." Gee, you sure are naive. Jerry wrote: >>>Seriously: Your eminently sensible, informed observations about >>>this latest manifestation of anti-gummint looney-tunery are only >>>going to get you accused of being an agent of the cover-up. >>>Doing battle with conspiracy cranks is like taking on a tarbaby. >>>Jerry Clark I don't understand why some of you must be so sarcastic sometimes. Are chemtrails possibly being secretly used to "spray" the public? Well, let me be just as sarcastic. Our gov't would never test anything on the public without telling them. Would they? They wouldn't ever lie to us. Would they? They don't have a history of doing similar things. Do they? Maybe the whole chemtrail thing is misidentification and paranoia. But there are some credible people who have had weird experiences. And Nick's friend saying it's unlikely this is going on is not evidence. Jerry, "looney-tunery" & "conspiracy cranks"? If I didn't know better I would say you were talking about UFO researchers. Why use such words? They've been used many times on me and you but you seem to not have learned from it. Here's a little something on the recent chemtrail/contrail "controversy". Lyn Buchanan is one of the former gov't remote viewers. He is very conservative and credible. He still, to this day, works for the gov't in the computer field. Until recently, his work was in a classified section of the military. Anybody who knows Lyn knows that he doesn't make things up. Could he be wrong about what he thinks is going on? Yes. But give him a little credit. He may also be right. Our gov't deserves no benefit of the doubt when it comes to testing done on its own citizens. Read this. It's not offered as evidence. It's just something that adds to the current database of chemtrail sightings. Whatever they are. Open your minds just a bit and allow for the possibility of this being a real thing. _____ sightings.com Top Remote Viewer Said Made Ill By Chemtrails (We received the following message from Lyn Buchanan who is one of America's finest and most respected (former government) Remote Viewers. He has been a guest on Jeff's program several times...see Archives.) From Lyn Buchanan <rviewer@netmdc.com 2-4-00 <snip> Just catching up from a recent mild illness, and thought I would send one bulk message to everyone at once. Item 1: To President Clinton: Mr. President, I saw the notice on The White House web page stating: The President signs the Ethics in Biotechnology Act of 1998, promoting the highest moral standards in developing new medical technologies. I just wanted to let you know that I support such legislation, and that I truely believe that the highest moral standards are a requirement for governments and civilians alike, when researching, developing, and testing in the biotechnology field. Good work. Item 2: Thursday evening, January 20th, 2000, at approximately 10PM, white, unmarked airplanes began a 5-day siege of spraying long vapor trails over Alamogordo, NM. I was outside as the first one was being laid, and was looking up into the otherwise completely clear sky. The trail was directly over my house. As I looked up, three very small droplets of liquid struck my face. By the next morning, my eyes were swollen and the mucus prevented me from opening my eyelids, as though I had pinkeye. My sinuses felt like someone had given me a severe beating, and there was a loud ringing in my ears which hasn't gone away, yet. Over the next 5 days, several hundred of the trails were sprayed over Alamogordo, some from very high altitudes, and some from extremely low altitudes, allowing a very good and clear look at the planes which were doing the spraying. At one point, I counted 18 trails overhead at one time. Spraying continued, as I said, for 5 days, and even during the night, some of those nights. The trails were definitely not jet condensation trails, but were very similar to the trails laid down by sky-writers. However, they went from horizon to horizon and lasted for a couple of hours before completely dissipating downward. By the end of the 5 day siege, the entire valley of the Tularosa Basin was unnaturally hazy. The base clinic at Holloman (Joe - Holloman Air Force Base) gave me some eyedrops for the eye infection, and nothing for the sinuses and ringing in the ears. The eye medicine had no noticeable affect. The base hospital's patient load appeared to increase over the next 2-3 days, and a person working at the hospital told me last night that the beds three weeks ago were full with patients whose problems were mainly respiratory and gastrointestinal, but seemed to defy diagnosis. The planes, if not belonging to the government, were at least government approved, since they flew unchallenged over White Sands Missile Range, a no-fly zone. I am forced to wonder about the moral standards of a government which attacks its own people in such a manner, whether for research, development, or whatever reason. However, there seem to be no lasting effects to the Alamogordo area. All affects appear to have been to those people who were outside for any length of time during the spraying. I have had students come in for two classes since then, and no one has reported any problems. To my knowledge, this has not happened before, and I sincerely hope it will not happen again. However, this last Saturday and Sunday I stood outside my home and watched to the far south as about 10 trails were laid over the small town of Oro Grande, NM. _____ Joe Murgia Tampa, Florida
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