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From: Mike Farrell <vidhunter@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
Fwd Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:40:17 -0400
Subject: UpDate: Carpenter's OZ Video - Cahill Speaks


Greetings,

Just to show you we haven't made this whole thing up, here's a
reply from one of the participants in the video released by John
Carpenter entitled 'Encounters in Australia' See UFO UpDates
Archive 'Carpenter's OZ Video-Rumors and Facts' for more details
at:

http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/aug/m07-008.shtml

The name is Kelly Cahill, and she was interviewed for the video
and confirms that she and others were mislead by John Carpenter,
who told the participants that their interviews would be kept
private. Carpenter then released them on a commercial video soon
afterwards.

Now, compared to the damage done to the abductees whose files
were sold by Carpenter, this matter of the misrepresented
Australian video interviews is very small. The participants
involved with the video interviews do not want to pursue
Carpenter any further at this point.

This is being brought to your attention only to illustrate that
the "professional misconduct" displayed by Carpenter is not an
isolated incident 'out of character', but shows a definite and
disturbing pattern of total disregard for patient
confidentiality and the common standards of honesty and
integrity within the UFO Research Community.

You can find out more about Kelly Cahill's celebrated roadside
abduction case, corroborated by independent witnesses, near
Melbourne in 1993, by going to any Australian UFO website or
referring to her book 'Encounter' (Harper Collins 1996) or see
Bill Chalker's book 'The OZ Files' (Duffy & Snellgrove 1996)

Let me preface her remarks by pointing out that Kelly was
responding to posts on this subject from Australian and other
mailing lists, and in particular to a post calling for the
Global UFO Research Community to "Boycott" the
Carpenter/MUFON/NIDS coalition by refusing to 'buy' any more of
their books, videos, or lectures until they publicly recognise
and correct their "professional misconduct".

I would also like to point out that what Kelly expresses about
the UFO politics in Australia can also be said for many other
countries as you all know very well. But that doesn't excuse the
fact that Carpenter's file-sale could be considered the greatest
offence against the credibility and integrity of the UFO
Research Community since big-time UFO Researcher and Roswell
Invesigator Bill Moore proclaimed he was an active
dis-information agent for the US Government a decade ago.

Here's the first and only response from Kelly Cahill with her
permission to post on all mailing lists following the 'Carpenter
Case'. I don't personally agree with all her comments, but I'll
let you decide for yourself what rings true for you.


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From: xxxxx.xxx (Kelly-Cahill)
To: "Mike Farrell" <vidhunter@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: To Boycott or not to Boycott "Carpenter"?
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000

Dear Mike,

In many ways I agree with the letter of John Valez, which
opposed calling for a "boycott" against Carpenter. The
bitchiness and "lets kill 'em all" attitude in Australian UFO
politics is the main reason I have stayed out of the field in
this country for the past few years. Yet I have been welcomed
with open arms in other countries without my contribution being
a threat to others in the field as it appears to be here.

I have seen many dirty deeds done against other people from
researchers in this country... maybe if I took them up as public
issues we could boycott half the Australian research
community... (bet that has a few people quivering in their
shoes... hehe).

Honestly, I am one of the people who has been mistreated by John
with the video scenario... but I personally had that out with
him long ago. People do stupid and greedy things... The buyer of
John's files is not an unknown quantity in the global UFO field
and has certainly funded many events and researchers. These
files did not go on public display for the world... but to
another involved in the field. It could have been a lot worse...
they could have been sold to the media instead... then everyone
would have something to really complain about.

Could it be that there is a certain amount of jealousy over the
fact that someone actually got paid something? If you were to be
funded by a millionaire... would you pass that opportunity up?
Also what of the research organisations that change hands? Are
the new officials entitled to peruse the files of experiencers?
Again, is talk and gossip about file contents of experiencers
not just as harmful as the actual hardcopy data? Because if so,
then just about every researcher I have ever met is guilty of
it.

To be honest, I am not happy with John Carpenter for my own
personal reasons... but I don't like the witch-hunt attitude in
this country's politics... and the absolute determination to
destroy someone. I have had another Australian researcher take a
private discussion I had with him and spout off to an American
publication about it... very personal information. Again I was
very upset, but did not see the need to force him out of the UFO
field. There are other incidents that I could discuss in
detail... but what on earth for?

I know this sounds callous and may be taken that way by other
experiencers... but it really isn't. I am in favor with more
data being shared between credible researchers, rather than
hoarded and jealously guarded. For example, if one researcher
was working on a project, it would be good for other researchers
to be able to contribute what data they have that they may think
to be of use for the particular project.

Not that I am saying that this is what John has done... cause
obviously it isn't. But I think experiencers have to remember...
that the data is what was of interest here...not them
personally. This is where we fail to see the very basics of
human nature... no-one cares who you are as a person and it is
the last thing they are interested in or concentrate on. When
they discuss the results of a personal medical examination of a
particular experiencer... no-one cares who the experiencer is...
nor are they thinking about her vagina... they are only
interested in the data gleaned and possible comparisons.

I am against what John did... but fair is fair... lets wipe out
half the global UFO field in one shot if we are going to become
the inquisition... Or prove ourselves to be better researchers,
and gain a far more respected reputation that will bring more
trusting experiencers to our doors. Setting out to destroy
someone with revenge is almost as bad as betraying a person when
it comes to the issue of respect. I certainly would not share my
trusted information with anyone who may turn on me at any time.

Well that's all I really have to say. Live and let live is a
good way to be. I think John is well and truly aware of the
problems this has caused and has probably learned a very big
lesson from all of this fuss... would you do it again if it were
you? There is no need to take it any further in my opinion, as
the point has already been made. Maybe what is left to be done
is possible discussions between John Carpenter and the abductees
involved... some may like an apology.

Mike... this will be the only public thing I have to say on this
issue. Please add it to your mailists. I realise that there will
probably be some nasty responses in reply because of the
imaginary political correctness in the UFO field in this
country. So bite me I say!

Kind regards...

Kelly Cahill


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THINK GLOBALLY-ACT LOCALLY!
Mike Farrell
UFO Researcher & UFO Video Hunter at:
http://www.flex.com.au/~eagle1/in8.htm
Australia