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From: Joachim Koch <achimkoch@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:44 CET
Fwd Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:06:28 -0400
Subject: UpDate: Phobos II

Hi Errol, Hi List,

Some time ago, I read something about the Soviet space probes
Phobos here on this List. I decided to tell you what I have
heard about this. Please forgive the delay.

In the eighties of the past century I've been one of the editors
of the well known German magazine for amateur astronomers named
'Space'. We closely followed the Soviet Space Missions with
their Phobos I + II probes as information about this slipped
through the 'Iron Curtain'.

As well as others, we all were disappointed about the abrupt
failure of both missions. At first, we believed in the widely
spread explanation that Soviet technicians weren't capable of
handling their own soft/hardware the nearer they got to Mars

--some virus that seemingly jumped across the Atlantic Ocean--

but then we became suspicious about all that.

One thing which triggered our suspicion was the book of Z.
Sitchin (wait!) 'Genesis Revisited', published in October 1990
by Avon Books. There he described all what happened and showed
the so-called last frames of Phobos II (in Chapter 12) for the
first time and ended this topic with the words (page 284):

[start quote]

"...In his careful words to AW&ST, the chairman of the Soviet
equivalent of NASA referred to that last frame when he tried to
explain the sudden loss of contact, saying: 'One image appears
to include an odd-shaped object between the spacecraft and
Mars.'

If not 'debris,' or 'dust,' or a 'jettisoned part of Phobos II,'
what was the 'object' that all accounts of the incident now
admit collided with the spacecraft - an object with an impact
strong enough to put the spacecraft into a spin, an object whose
image was captured by the last photographic frames?

'We just don't know,'said the chief of the Soviet Space program.

But the evidence of an ancient space base on Mars and the
odd-shaped "shadow" in its skies add up to an awesome
conclusion: What the secret frames hide is evidence that the
loss of Phobos II was not an accident but an incident.

Perhaps the first incident in a Star Wars - the shooting down by
Aliens from another planet of a spacecraft from Earth intruding
their Martian base. ... "

[end of quote]

In 1990, I made contact with a former employee of the 'Zeiss-
Planetarium' here in Berlin which, before the wall came down,
was one of the most prestigious objects in the ancient GDR. This
man, a Mr. Schloessin, knew a female Soviet scientist, Dr. K.B.
Schingazera, who was involved in the scientific part of the
Phobos mission. He gave me a map of the (hollow?) moon of Mars,
Phobos, which wasn't available at that time in West Germany and
I hadn't seen such a huge map of a tiny moon so far. Schloessin
gave me her address and so I wrote to her.

I told her about my education, profession and Mr. Schloessin. I
mentioned Mr. Sitchin's publication, the photographs and his
findings/theories. I asked her to confirm the existence of these
photographs and what happened to Phobos II according to
Sitchin's report. I asked for further details and her opinion
about all that.

You must know that at that time everything was unstable in
Eastern Europe, all the old KGB structures were (and are)
still alive. So you never knew if a letter you sent to the
old U.S.S.R. would ever reach the recipient. More so if you
wrote to former employees of such sensible departments of the
old Soviet space program. Even we here in Berlin felt uneasy
when entering the former Soviet sector of our hometown which was
a forbidden area for us, living in the allied sectors, for more
then forty years.

By the end of March '92, I received a letter - written by hand
in German. The sender was: Dr. Schingazera from Moscow. You can
imagine how I felt. She wrote: (translation from German to
English by me)

"Dear Herr Koch!

<personal parts of letter snipped>

Regarding the "Phobos-Mission" I can tell you:

1) "Phobos I" was lost 'underway' due to a mistake in the
computer program. This disrupted the transmissions.

2)"Phobos II" did function around Mars as an artificial
satellite for a while, but after a few days, while many
experiments started to be carried out, a wrong command to the
sun panels was sent to the probe. Subsequently, the orientation
and the source of energy were lost. The result: no contact
toward Earth.

All materials about "Phobos II" were broadly published, many
lectures included, on the COSPAR-Conference in Hague,
Netherlands, in July 1990. I attended this conference and gave a
lecture. You may read these lectures in the proceedings. At that
time, most of our scientists who worked on the Phobos program,
attended the conference. No report about about additional
photographs or something unusual was heard or reported among
them.

It is my opinion that you have read an interesting speculation
of an American author. This happens from time to time in
science.

Best wishes

K.B. Shingazera"

At that time I was also member of a strange group which is still
in existence and named 'MUFON - Central European Section'. My
intent for joining this group, initially, was to become a member
of _The_ MUFON. What an error. This German group acts as a
sect-like invitation-only group under the reign of a man who
declares what is right or what has to be wrong: Mr. Illobrand v.
Ludwiger.

Once he might have done a deal with the aged W. Andrus of real
MUFON to invent a German ("Central European Section") offshoot
of the American Organisation. Mr. v. Ludwiger, a physicist,
worked at the major German weapons enterprise, MBB (and later
at DASA), and has (according to Mr. Lammer, an Austrian
researcher) connections into the world of the knights with the
non-lethal weapons.

On camera, in the German (private) RTL television program of one
of the major print magazines, 'Der Spiegel', Mr. v. Ludwiger,
the German MUFON-offspring of Walt Andrus, stated, that he
believes the American Air Force Report, that it was a MOGUL
balloon which crashed near Roswell. Unnecessary to mention that
inside his group one risks being banned and excluded if one
dares to have a different view of reality than that of Mr. v.
Ludwiger.

In the Fall of 1991, I attended the annual meeting of
"MUFON-CES" and to our surprise it was announced that we would
hear a lecture of:

General ret. Stubblebine and Dr. Rima Laibow (of T.R.E.A.T.)

about the 'Phobos Incident' and abduction research. As by
chance, both came back from a trip to Russia where they had
to investigate "something".

[You all are invited to make up your mind why this well-known
member of the military (...) community and this well known
researcher of anomalous trauma such as abductions both went/were
sent to Russia and both have such a detailed knowledge about
what happened to the Phobos probe)

Well, as the lecture went on, this General stood in front of us
and told us what he liked to tell us. Obviously, he enjoyed
being in a position to know more than he was telling. Then it
was demanded that all video cameras should switched off and no
more photographing was allowed.

As far as I remember, they told us:

That a remote viewing probe (by PSI Tech?) was sent out
to the Red Planet and the (at least surprising) result of
that probe was Stubblebine's and Laibow's voyage to Moscow
to verify this.

These remote viewers had (all!) seen:

-that while Phobos II approached and surrounded Mars it was
watched.

- the impression of a surveillance system on and below the
surface of Mars (the picture of an overall sharp watchdog
appeared)which would react to any approach to the planet.

Upon my question it was said that this surveillance system was
"too old" that it could not distinguish between exploring
(innocent) probes and other (probabely hostile) probes. Because
of this - the approach of an unknown flying object - the
"defending mechanism" of the surveillance system was activated
and caused the malfunction of  Phobos.

-that when it (Phobos II) came (too) close to the moon Phobos
the "watchdog mechanism" was activated. Additionally it was seen
that another larger spacecraft hovered above (and outside Phobos
II's cameras)and monitored/directed the end of this mission.

Phobos, the moon measures 26,6 x 22,2 x 18,6 km by a radius of
11 km. Its most remarkable crater, Stickney, is 12 km wide.
Another crater,Hall, measures 5 km. No mechanism is known so far
that could explain why Phobos wasn't annihilated if the craters
of this tiny body would have been created by an impact. That is
the reason why many think that Phobos is hollow - artificially.


This is the end of my report.

P l e a s e

if you would like to start to tell me things

c o n s i d e r

when and why do you accept things to be real?

With my name and my person, and with my friend and colleague,
Hans-Juergen Kyborg as a witness, I stand by what I've described
above.

Joachim Koch