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From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:12:54 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:14:20 -0400
Subject: UpDate: Re: The MUFON-NIDS Coalition - Gates


 >Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 01:31:56 -0400
 >From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
 >Subject: Re: The MUFON-NIDS Coalition - Velez
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

<snip>

 >I propose that it is _you_ who are damaging yourself and the
 >entire abductee community by your incessant negative meddling
 >with the work that is being done in order to get Carpenter to
 >notify the clients whose files he sold. If it had been you that
 >Carpenter betrayed that way, we'd never hear the end of the
 >whining and complaining that you'd do. Every step of the way you
 >have tried to interfere with the process almost as if you were
 >on a 'mission'. In your last rant you tell Carpenter that the
 >reason he should comply and notify the abductees is because you
 >are sick and tired of reading our postings to him about it.

In the endless discussion of JC, we still haven't been told how
JC ended up with at least one of Budd Hopkins files. When I
raised the issue, it was totally ignored. John has admitted that
he was given files by other researchers, so since Budd has
publicly stated that he didn't sell any files, _he_ never has
publicly stated that he didn't give any files away. If JC is
fair game, shouldn't we also be asking Budd and other abduction
researchers for a list of all files they either sold or gave
away to other researchers for any researcher for any reason. As
I recall JC admitted that he got a number of files from other
researchers. As was suggested this may end up to be 60 of the
140.

Cheers,

Robert