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From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:02:04 -0400
Fwd Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:59:00 -0400
Subject: UpDate: Carpenter Speaks Out...


Here are comments from John Carpenter himself as received from a
friend of his, relayed to me.

I also have a copy of Carpenter's comments regarding the
"revelation" by one of the abductees, of wrongdoing. I shall
send this out in another mail.

Best regards to the list ....

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John Carpenter Addresses Claims And Rumors:

By John S. Carpenter

In recent months confusing stories have been circulating around
the Internet about my activities as a UFO abductions researcher.
Because I serve on the Board of Directors for MUFON as Director
of Abduction Research, I feel that I owe the membership,
abductees, and anybody else several clarifications so as to
reassure them that I have not grown fangs and degenerated into
some kind of unethical criminal.

A number of assumptions have evolved from the Internet rumors.
(1) It is stated that I have sold all of my abduction files to a
wealthy Las Vegas billionaire, (2) It is assumed that this man,
Robert Bigelow, is a shady character with secret ties to the
government just because he has a great deal of money as well as
tight secrecy, (3) It is claimed that I sold a list of client
names to Robert Bigelow as well, (4) It is stated that I have
broken the confidentiality of these cases and exposed these
people to harmful scrutiny, (5) It is stated that I do not know
anything about psychology and am a charlatan when it comes to
hypnosis not to mention claims of sexual affairs during
sessions. As is true with any circulating gossip, the truth gets
lost among the more interesting additions that develop naturally
through distortion.

BACKGROUND

First of all, UFO abduction researchers share information with
each other all the time. When we get together privately or at
conferences, we need to compare notes about our cases (because
we are scattered around the country) in order to learn more from
each other towards understanding the UFO Abduction phenomenon.
We have shared cases at public conferences in an effort to
educate people and encourage understanding instead of ridicule.
Without comparing cases with each other we could not see the
important patterns of similarity worldwide.

We have kept information confidential to protect those abductees
and their families. We have simply been pioneers collecting data
while begging science to take a more serious examination. Many
professionals and scientists have been afraid to be involved
with what has appeared to be a fringe science fraught with
hoaxes and oddballs with outrageous claims. But we have needed
these great minds to help us research and resolve this mystery.

One example of this sharing and compilation of private
information is MUFONs Abduction Transcription Project. Around
900 transcripts of hypnosis sessions from hundreds of abductees
were offered by at least 20 different abduction researchers.
Audiotapes were mailed out to less than 50 volunteers across the
country who transcribed these hypnosis sessions, deleting
identifying names and giving every transcript a code number.
These transcripts were then fed into a computer system which
could then retrieve the data in various ways over numerous
variables and key words. To the best of our knowledge
confidentiality was maintained.

Robert Bigelow, the wealthy Las Vegas developer, has been a kind
and helpful resource to the field of UFO research over the past
10 years, quietly funding many projects with many of the main
researchers like Linda Moulton Howe, Stanton Friedman, Budd
Hopkins, David Jacobs, Yvonne Smith, Dr. Roger Leir, and
organizations like MUFON and CUFOS. Mr. Bigelow was responsible
for creating and funding the popular radio show, Art Bells
Dreamland because he wanted this country to get some quality
education on paranormal topics.

He was instrumental in developing and funding the Roper
Organizations polling of 6,000 Americans for potential abduction
encounters. He helped support the famous Abduction Studies
Conference at M.I.T. in 1992. He made available hundreds of
thousands of dollars to MUFON, CUFOS, and FUFOR for research
projects. But he also desired to attract top quality analysis
through different branches of science by the best minds from
each field something UFO researchers had only dreamed of but
rarely seen. This is when he created and funded NIDS the
National Institute for Discovery Science at the end of 1995.

Under top secrecy and the highest standards of confidentiality,
Mr. Bigelow was able to attract some of the best academic and
scientific minds in this country from the fields of
astrophysics, medicine, psychiatry, psychology, parapsychology,
biochemistry, and physics to quietly convene on a regular basis
to seriously study the best data available in the areas of UFOs
and abductions, ghosts, near-death encounters, psychic
abilities, consciousness, and other paranormal occurrences. A
number of famous people were involved, including Jacques Vallee,
Ian Stevenson, and two of the Apollo astronauts who walked on
the moon. They comprised what became known as the Science
Advisory Board for NIDS.

RESPONDING TO RUMORS

To claim that I sold all of my abduction files sounds as if I
loaded up a truck with these cases and shipped them off to Las
Vegas for a lump sum of money. First of all, every one of my
files, audiotapes, and videotapes on abductions is fully intact
within the safety of my own home where they have always been.
None of them have ever been logged as official MUFON cases. In
fact, I have been going through many of them as I have begun to
write a book on my research.

I was contacted in 1995 by Robert Bigelow regarding a project to
help educate his esteemed and newly-formed Science Advisory
Board and enhance their awareness regarding the abduction
phenomenon. He considered my personal research and data to be of
the quality from which this team of scientists and professionals
could learn and benefit. I was immediately concerned with
confidentiality, but we agreed that assigning code numbers for
each case and deleting identifying data (as in the Abduction
Transcription Project) would protect individuals. This Science
Board was not interested in anything but the kinds of
information and experiences abductees are reporting not who they
are or where they live. And I did not send everything that was
desired sometimes only a page or two from a number of cases.

Because this project would require many hours on my part, Mr.
Bigelow agreed to reimburse me for my hours, costs, and other
expenses. This essentially resulted in being like a part-time
job for about seven months. He insisted on being generous
because he knew how many hundreds of hours I had already worked
with abductees at no charge in my free hours after my full-time
day job. The irony is that at the end of this project in the
spring of 1996 his Science Board was already busy with their own
projects and reportedly never delved into any of the material
that I had sent.

Ever since I began collecting information from people back in
1988, I have made it clear that this is UFO research not
therapy. I would meet in other locations after my regular
hospital work hours and not charge any typical fees. The
psychiatric units administrator told me that whatever I did in
my free time was my own business. I would meet in borrowed
offices, homes, hotels, friends houses, or wherever some privacy
could be maintained.

Because I paid my all of my own expenses and was volunteering so
many of my hours, a number of people insisted on giving me
something for my time and trouble. I allowed them to make
research donations if they wanted to do so, which was rarely
more than $20 total for three to four hours of work. I wanted to
make it very clear from the start that this was not a
professional service nor were they considered to be psychiatric
patients. Although confidentiality was always provided, it was
never protected in the strictest sense because unrelated
assistants, UFO investigators, artists, friends, or even family
members would commonly sit in on interviews and sessions, and
there was never any absolute control over what they might say or
do afterwards.

These were NOT psychiatric patients, and this was NOT
psychotherapy. There were never any official medical records
kept in any medical office. There were no psychiatric
evaluations, treatment plans, therapy goal lists, or progress
notes developed. All files containing my research notes,
audiotaped interviews, and alien drawings were always kept in a
spare bedroom in my home where they all continue to be kept
privately today. No case was ever logged or listed officially
with MUFON either. Even my malpractice insurance carrier has
declared that this research was not a professional activity but
the furtherance of a hobby.

I have always protected my abduction cases from public scrutiny.
Before any media would ever be involved, I would always check
with them or get permission to discuss their details. In fact,
many of my abductees would call me first to make sure that a
media representative would be okay or safe for them to talk
with. This project for Mr. Bigelows Science Board offered the
highest secrecy and utmost confidentiality from public scrutiny.

The claim that I sold a list of names to Mr. Bigelow is not
true. My ex-wife, Elizabeth, took a confidential list of names
from my home computer at the time of our divorce and began
circulating this list without anybody’s permission. It has even
been posted briefly on a website on the Internet which is an
absolutely horrible breach of privacy and potentially much more
harmful.

This list which did not include any addresses, states, phone
numbers, or anything beyond a name was simply the necessary key
to the secret, number-coded cases. Anytime you create codes you
have to keep a key to those codes somewhere. And if the name Joe
Williams appears on that list, does anybody know with any degree
of certainty which Joe Williams in the entire United States to
whom this would refer?

The "one file" that was allegedly returned from NIDS to an
abductee that supposedly had nothing blacked out ---- was none
other than my ex-wife and the notes on my ex-wife's experiences.
Not only did she give her consent 5 years ago and know fully
what I was doing without any concern, but she is the only person
who already has her ORIGINAL FILE and has had for the past 3
years! Therefore, she could make copies of anything and claim
anything all on her own anyway!!! This is important additional
information. The rumorists are not telling people that this file
belonged to my ex-wife -- the initiator of ALL of this mess!!!

Another recent Internet rumor claims that I neglected the rights
of Australian researchers and abductees and was deceptive in the
making of my research videotape, Encounters in Australia. When
Glennys Mackay with MUFON in Australia invited me to speak at
her conference in October of 1996, I let her know right away
that I wanted to make a videotape of interviews with Australian
abductees when I came to Brisbane. She indicated that there
should not be any problem and that she would direct me to a
small conference room in the hotel and even send some people to
me.

With each interview I invited each participant to read and sign
a written consent form which indicated that the videotape
footage would be used for research and educational purposes to
enhance awareness of the abduction phenomenon. This videotape
was never commercially produced, never assigned an ISBN number,
never widely distributed, nor advertised in any regular fashion
in any publication that I am aware of. I simply offer my
home-produced research videos for sale to interested
participants of UFO conferences at which I have been invited to
speak.

   Although these rumors claim otherwise, many of you do not have
to be told that I am well-trained in psychology and hypnosis. I
have a B.A. degree in Psychology and a MSW in Social Work with
21 years of experience in the field of psychiatry helping
thousands of clients with all kinds of emotional, mental,
behavioral, and relationship problems. I was trained in clinical
hypnosis at several special programs through the
highly-respected Menninger Clinic in Topeka, Kansas, beginning
20 years ago.

Claims of sexual affairs during sessions was initiated and
perpetuated by my ex-wife only after our divorce. What is ironic
about such claims is that I have had one or two helpful
assistants present for 95% of all my sessions. The other irony
is that the one abductee my ex-wife made claims about always had
her husband present for every interview as well as the MSW
professional who was assisting me.

Also, helping my ex-wife (when we were married) casually explore
any of her own UFO memories in the comfort of our home does not
make her a patient or my behavior unethical. I will not state
anything further about my ex-wife or her actions in respect for
her rights and privacy, but such information would further
explain many of the rumors, distortions, and claims.

Coming from an established field of professional practice into
the unestablished and rather chaotic field of UFO research has
forced many of us to become pioneers who have had to create the
pathways, carve out some rules, and attempt to make credible
sense out of what we are doing. Mistakes are easy to make in
this field because the guidelines are constantly being either
created or revised. The goal has always been to comprehend what
kind of intelligence is interacting with our planet so that we
can help those people who are being affected to understand and
cope effectively.

We have always needed the expertise of scientists and other
professionals who have traditionally been too leery or skeptical
to participate toward those goals. Robert Bigelow and the
National Institute for Discovery Science has finally been able
to bridge that gap and open new doors for advanced research,
scientific evaluation, and eventual understanding.

As I have dedicated my life toward helping people, these have
been the goals in UFO research which I have been trying to serve
within my free time outside of my professional career. I
sincerely apologize for the unnecessary confusion and negative
publicity which has hurt many feelings. I am certainly not
perfect. I am just trying to do a credible job in contributing
to this challenging field.

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In passing and closing, there will be much more to follow in
coming days from me. And I wish to make it CLEAR as a bell with
ALL of you that while I believe Carpenter, I acknowledge that he
may be guilty of doing a disservice to the abductees if indeed,
there was any traceability to them on a personal level. And ONLY
then.

I also think that (in my opinion) there is at present no reason
to report to the 140 abductees if the facts are as they have
been presented to me.

It is the contention of Mr. Velez that JC did wrong by not
getting permission of those whose case histories were sold, and
should notify them now. I do not agree with that, necessarily.
Why? If the facts are as Carpenter represents them.

I have no quarrel with John Velez, but I too, will sit this one
out until the facts are made clear in this case. And if they
are as presented, there will be at John Carpenter's disposal,
all the help I can muster up to give him.

No one should be harrassed, accused, have his or her good name
dragged into the gutter by anyone. Especially by those who are
self professed abductees. Words which I do not agree with but
repeat here.

Because, in my opinion, we abductees have more to lose at the
hands of those who have done the same to us for decades, than JC
does.

We've been accused us of insanity, of seeking a moment of glory,
of lying, etc. And now, one or more of our very own is doing
exactly that to a researcher for reasons which have not as yet
been proven.

Dirty pool. Unfair. Premature at best.

Jim Mortellaro