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From: Larry Hatch <larryhat@jps.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:21:33 -0700 Fwd Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:22:56 -0400 Subject: Re: The Orford Ness Lighthouse 'UFO' - Hatch >Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:53:23 +0100 >From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk> >Subject: Re: The Orford Ness Lighthouse 'UFO' >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca> >>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:11:22 -0500 >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net> >>Subject: Re: The Orford Ness Lighthouse 'UFO' >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca> >>Persons with the appropriate professional background to make >>them good witnesses figure disproportionately in the best >>sightings, just as one would expect. <snip> >Well no, Jerry, I'm afraid they don't. Allan Hendry has >demonstrated that pilots and law enforcement officers (typical >"reliable witness" types) are no better at distinguishing UFOs >from IFOs than other occupational groups that make no claim to >be "trained witnesses". The proportion of IFOs to all reports >made by pilots and air personnel was 75% (i.e. 75% of all >reports were subsequently identified) which was on the lower end >of the range, it was the same as the proportion for "skilled >trades", in which Hendry placed architects, musicians, >photographers, engineers, and quite possibly librarians. Worst >of all, with 94% of their reports turning out to be IFOs were >law enforcement officers. > >Hendry suggests that the reason why the latter proved so >ineffective in distinguishing IFOs from UFOs was that their >training made the more conscious of small details during quiet >night patrols. This raises an important point: yes there are >"trained observers", but they are usually trained to observe >something quite specific. Pilots are trained to observe objects >with the flight characteristics of an aeroplane. they are not >for instance trained to observe meteors, which explains why >quite a few "near miss" UFO encounters with planes turned out to >be meteors may tens of miles away. policemen are trained to >notice _anything_ out of the usual and report and act on it. <snip> Just some minor points: 1) On the higher 94% IFO rates for policemen, this may actually work in their favor. Its almost a movie cliché for an English policeman to be scribbling notes into his little notebook at some crime scene, while the direct witnesses are more likely losing their heads. ( I suspect movie fans here would be disappointed if this failed to occur. ) If a good cop takes note of many details, great and small, this would inevitably lead to a higher rate of identification, since most well investigated UFO reports do turn out to be mundane. I would offer this as an indication that the policeman was indeed a better witness, not just average or poorer. A good command of the details must necessarily imply a better witness! 2) As for airline pilots and crew, I cannot offer such a good argument, just my personal opinion based on pilots I have met, a rather no-nonsense lot, and what I have heard of them in general. When it comes to in-flight sightings, I would take the testimony of any airline pilot over some passenger on the very same plane... perhaps at a two to one ratio. Throw in the copilot, others in the crew, and I would call that pretty darned good credibility. ( The "strangeness" rating is of course a separate issue, and would depend on the description. ) Even Joe Soap can provide some good testimony, if accompanied by George, Jill and Roger Soap .. and their descriptions tally. I would nevertheless give greater weight to a pilot, or even a beat-cop, than some person taken at random. Best wishes - Larry Hatch
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